Talk:ur-poem

Apparently no one believes me, but all the texts I've read have capitalized Ur-poem. I can provide examples, randomly-lowercasing moderators! 66.253.179.54 00:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Go for it. Mglovesfun (talk) 02:10, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

books.google.com/books?id=3G8rBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA163&dq=ur-poem & books.google.com/books?id=6LUcuGdJF30C&pg=PA115&dq=ur-poem & books.google.com/books?id=RKxkAAAAMAAJ&q=ur-poem have Ur-poem. There could be two forms... -10:42, 2 April 2018 (UTC) Above comment added by User:‎84.161.34.254

But top result of a books.google search for "ur-poem" [including ""] is:

You Must Change Your Life: Poetry, Philosophy, and the Birth of Sense

https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0271045337

John T. Lysaker - 2010 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions

Neither the individual poems nor the whole says everything. Nevertheless, every poem speaks out of the whole of this ur-poem, and says the ur-poem every time. From the site of the ur-poem rises the wave which, unfailingly, moves the saying as something poetic" (Heidegger 1985, 33).° The ur-poem can thus be read only via a "clarification" of the language of the poem. "Because the poet's singular ur-poem always remains within the unspoken, we can situate its Ort only in trying to ...

Capitalised versions may possibly show confusion with the city of Ur, but surely poems from there would be Ur poems [no hyphen] cf London poems or New York poems. A quick look suggests there is indeed a second, capitalised form "Ur-poem", perhaps a tenth as common as "ur-poem", though I haven't read the context enough to be certain the meaning is the same. If you have, then if you want, add another entry for "Ur-poem", perhaps with definition 'Variant of "ur-poem"', but if you do so, I advise adding three cites to avoid it being speedy-deleted in error. --Enginear 12:58, 2 April 2018 (UTC)