Talk:tutlayt
Etymology
[edit]@Mellohi! do you think this word is related to Kabyle iles or is it just a coincidence ? Generally words meaning "tongue" and "language" are derived from the same root. If it's true it could be related to Proto-Berber *ilVs- and it would provide an etymology to its Central Atlas Tamazight cognate. Malku H₂n̥rés (talk) 06:55, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Malku H₂n̥rés: That is not "generally" true, and there is no reason to believe it's true here, as they have almost no phonetic similarity. Additionally, I don't know if this actually can be reconstructed to Proto-Berber, but I have a feeling it can't. Please don't put that claim in entries unless you actually have evidence for it. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 15:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Ok sorry just wanted to be sure because, if one removes the t- -t feminine circumfix, there's *ulay which looks a bit like iles. At least some IE and Semitic languages have the words for "tongue" and "language" from a common etymology so a common etymology was not impossible, that's why I asked to got sure, but if you say so... Eventually we simply conclude the Central Atlas Tamazight word is a cognate of a later innovation and that's all. Malku H₂n̥rés (talk) 16:45, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- No, you get -utlay-, which doesn't look much like iləs at all. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:33, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oh my bad how did I do not to see the <t> ! I apologize for bothering you one more time for a stupid thing. Malku H₂n̥rés (talk) 18:32, 3 December 2020 (UTC)