Talk:sword

melee

melée has issues... Changed to melée.

• has issues in IE 6.0. Changed to [[melee|melée]].

how long is 'long-bladed'?

surely the definition could be more specific?

sower-d?

I'd like to confirm the second pronunciation /soʊrd/, as shown on Dictionary.com. If it is really used in American English, it must be disyllabic like sower. Isn't it rather pronounced like the non-rhotic sowed? — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 04:42, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I could not find /soʊrd/ at Dictionary.com. I would say that in American English, it should be pronounced /soɻd/, but some people may pronounce it /ˈsoʊ.ɚd/. —Stephen ^(Talk) 08:09, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Please press the Show IPA on that page. Okay, so some people actually pronounce it /ˈsoʊ.ɚd/. Thanks, that's what I wanted to know. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 13:44, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

RFC discussion: September 2010

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sword

Overstuffed ety section. Needs proto appendices to offload cognate lists to. DCDuring TALK 16:00, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes I sometimes remove cognates. FWIW the RFC tag now takes up more place than the cognates. Codecat might be able to help with the Proto-Germanic link. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:10, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure it will be promptly removed by our crack squad of etymologists, once the entry is clean up. If not, then deletion of the cognates seems appropriate. DCDuring TALK 16:16, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Created Appendix:Proto-Germanic *swerdan, and added all the descendants I could find to that (anyone happen to know the West Frisian and Afrikaans words?). Do with the original what you wish. :) —CodeCat 16:34, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Now all we need is PIE. DCDuring TALK 17:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

use of force

the use of force, violence, or military power
the pen is mightier than the sword.
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009

--Backinstadiums (talk) 15:59, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

When did IPA(key): /swɔːrd/ in modern English become obsolete? Is it better to add "regional variant" after "obsolete"?

At least in primary schools in Hong Kong, such pronunciation was still taught throughout the 2000s, and no one would find it weird.

Also it'd be nice if more info can be added regarding when dropping the -w- became common. Vc06697 (talk) 10:02, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

@Vc06697 Are there any clips online of someone from HK saying it like this? As a British English speaker, I'd find it really strange if someone said it like that in casual conversation. Theknightwho (talk) 10:10, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Ahhh man.... that's the problem. I'd say it's common enough in schools that no one bothered to record it... I would thank anyone who manages to find such audio or video. I'm not sure if looking into TVB/ATV English news archives are a good direction. Vc06697 (talk) 09:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

FWIW, Wright's 1905 EDD mentions soərd, soəd, swə̄d as dialectal variant pronunciations (where ə̄ is defined as the i of bird). The 1933 OED, which distinguished the horse-hoarse vowels, says this word could be pronounced with either, but only has /s/, not /sw/. (As TKW says, we'd need evidence of it being a modern pronunciation in order to list it as one.) - -sche (discuss) 15:00, 29 June 2024 (UTC)