Talk:stick with

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rfd-sense "To continue or persist; to stick to." with example Stick with the curriculum, and I think you'll succeed.

The first part of the sense doesn't fit the example as well as the other senses do and the second part is redundant.

--WikiTiki89 (talk) 08:23, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

The whole entry looks questionable to me, can stick not mean stay and persist? Mglovesfun (talk) 09:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Macmillan has three senses, which all have some merit. I have added a sense "To loyally follow", which is like one of theirs. The alternative to keeping this entry is to add a number of senses to stick#Verb about its construal with various prepositions. That adds to the difficulty of using (and maintaining) an entry like [[stick]].

With phrasal verbs, there is an obvious association of the meanings with the component terms, but the specific meaning is not transparent. I think the Macmillan senses, if not some of ours, meet the test.

For the sense at hand, "To persist in using or employing" would better capture what is distinct about the notion of persistence in this expression. DCDuring TALK 10:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't see a sense of with that combines with stick to mean "to loyally follow" among the 29 senses of with at MWOnline, let alone our more economical 8. DCDuring TALK 10:55, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't see the difference between "To follow loyally." and "To follow or adhere to." --WikiTiki89 (talk) 10:59, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I still think all seven definitions look a lot like [[stick]] [[with]]. I'm leaning towards delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:55, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Try substituting follow or adhere to in some actual uses. Oh, wait, we don't have any actual uses in the entry, so we can't conveniently have a usage-based discussion with a common fact base. I wonder if that might be part of the problem with the entry. DCDuring TALK 12:03, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Keep. "stick with the curriculum" can be replaced with "stick to the curriculum," but I don't think this use of "with" is obvious; I also don't think that meaning can be easily understood by looking up "with." Also, the sentence "Some of my father's peculiar expressions have stuck with me" seems different from "stick" in general. One other thing: the sentence "The Jets are sticking with Sanchez at quarterback" sounds ungrammatical to me (I would change "at" to "as"), though I would believe anyone who says it is fine. --BB12 (talk) 03:28, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• Deleted sense as redundant to other sense. -WF