Talk:själv
See also the discussion on the Swedish wiktionary. \Mike 19:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Reflexive pronoun
[edit]- Note this. - -sche (discuss) 06:22, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I was talking to an American gal who teaches Swedish (in the US) the other day and there was one thing she said that just stopped me dead in my tracks. And that was “själv is a reflexive pronoun.” What? Please don’t tell me this is what teachers of Swedish in the US tell their students!
While “själv” may indeed look like a reflexive pronoun, especially when it’s translated into English, it most definitely is not. It’s just a word used for emphasis that someone performed a certain action all by him/herself. Unfortunately, because of this “himself, herself, myself, etc” bit, it frequently gets mistaken for a reflexive pronoun.
So how does this “själv” work in Swedish? Like this:
Jag kan göra det själv. – I can do it myself.
And now for a real reflexive pronoun:
Jag har skurit mig. – I have cut myself.
The first one simply emphasizes that I can do whatever it is that I’m supposed to do all by myself, just like a big girl should.
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Rfv-sense: Swedish "the self". Mglovesfun (talk) 11:42, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, this Swedish noun is listed in SAOL, the current standard for spelling. I've added the reference to the entry. --LA2 22:06, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Shall it pass because it is clearly in widespread use? - -sche (discuss) 01:14, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, hm. Read this. Looks like more research into the matter is needed. I know a Swede on de.Wikt I may ask. - -sche (discuss) 18:27, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
- I believe I have cited this as a noun, by looking for instances of "självets" (according to the Swedish Wiktionary entry, neither the adjective nor the pronoun inflect into a form ending in -ets, but according to our entry, the noun does). - -sche (discuss) 06:21, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, hm. Read this. Looks like more research into the matter is needed. I know a Swede on de.Wikt I may ask. - -sche (discuss) 18:27, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]The IPA pronunciation doesn't match the audio. Jan D. Berends (talk) 20:36, 2 August 2016 (UTC)