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Latest comment: 2 years ago by 70.172.194.25 in topic Old slang for the House of Commons?

Latin

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Could someone, please, add Latin translation of this word?

...thanks
Done Done It's there now. Equinox 11:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Spanish translations

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I'm not happy with some of the Spanish translations provided for "shop" : "changarro" is not any shop but a "small shop" in Mexico ; "pulpuría" is not any shop but a "grocery" in Costa Rica, Nicaragua and Honduras. Also, "almacén" IS any shop, but in Colombia. So these translations need some accuracy and pulpería should be deleted, since it is already included as a translation for grocery. Andresalvarez 19:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Kept. See archived discussion of August 2008. 06:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Transitive verb?

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There seems to be a transitive sense of this verb now. Try searching the Web for "shop the menswear lookbook" or "shop our catalog". Equinox 10:42, 20 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Done Done Equinox 10:06, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Interjection

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Can anyone confirm the sense used to get someone's attention in a shop please? Not heard of it. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:50, 20 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

A Web search for "shouted shop" finds some likely examples. Equinox 04:51, 5 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • This is very old-fashioned. I haven't heard it for over 50 years. Typically, you would call it in a small, local shop where the owner was in the residential part of the building at the time. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:12, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Another missing transitive verb?

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Seems to mean something like "join an academic course on a trial basis" - perhaps related to workshop? Equinox 17:29, 31 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • Angela Lee '14-'15, who shopped the course and hopes to enroll, said that it was “unfortunate” so many people wanted to take a course []
  • Luo said she only shopped the course for 15 minutes because “there was no point in staying” when she could not even see the professor.
This would seem to be an extension of window-shop. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

RFD discussion: April–November 2016

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rfd-sense: an organisation using specified programming languages or software, often exclusively.

An unnecessarily specific form of "Workplace; office. Used mainly in expressions such as shop talk, closed shop and shop floor." Similar forms can be found well before computer programming was a thing. For example, welding places that specialize in arc welding are "arc shops":

  • 1935, Welding Engineer
    It is bad enough when two shops of equal merit as to personnel and equipment cut prices to get work, but it is even worse when a gas shop tries to compete with an arc shop for arc jobs, or an arc shop competes with a gas shop for gas jobs.
  • 1979, Association of Iron and Steel Engineers, Year Book - Association of Iron and Steel Engineers
    The transfer of the Llanwern-type collection technology to an arc shop was relatively simple.

and a steelworks that uses the Bessemer process is a "Bessemer shop":

  • 1956, Great Britain. Iron and Steel Board, British Iron and Steel Federation, Iron and Steel Statistics Bureau, British Steel Corporation, British Independent Steel Producers' Association, Iron and Steel
    The next steelmaking plant to be laid down in the area was a Bessemer shop and rail mill at Moss Bay, Workington, in 1877.
  • 1971, Harold E. McGannon, The Making, Shaping and Treating of Steel
    In addition to the auxiliary equipment necessary for an open-hearth shop, much of the apparatus necessary for a Bessemer shop also had to be provided.

and so on. Smurrayinchester (talk) 07:49, 20 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • I think we should try to somehow define or at least illustrate the differences between seller/fabricator of certain goods or service (as in the welding example) and more-or-less-exclusive user of a given technology or brand (as in the Bessemer examples). The latter would be a despecialization of the sense under challenge.
The whole noun PoS could use some rationalization. Eg, why is there a special definition for car repair? DCDuring TALK 10:56, 20 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Delete (move usexes/quotations to the existing broader sense which covers this) per nom. - -sche (discuss) 18:34, 23 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Sense deleted. bd2412 T 14:54, 10 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

transitive verb (U.S.): try to sell something

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transitive verb (U.S.): to try to sell something such as a company or creative work by bringing it to the attention of potential buyers
His agent shopped his manuscript around to various publishers.
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009

See shop around. --Backinstadiums (talk) 10:26, 6 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Backinstadiums: It's also shop around in your example above. Never just shop. Equinox 03:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Old slang for the House of Commons?

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Listed in John Camden Hotten's Slang Dictionary (1873); however, Hotten writes that the "only instance we have met with of the use of this word in literature" is this one:

  • 1860, Anthony Trollope, Framley Parsonage
    'If we are merely to do as we are bid, and have no voice of our own, I don't see what's the good of our going to the Shop at all,' said Mr. Sowerby.

Equinox 03:53, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Maybe also the Talking Shop? [1], [2] 70.172.194.25 04:00, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply