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Latest comment: 5 years ago by BD2412 in topic RFD discussion: June 2018–March 2019

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Per utramque cavernam 11:52, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

RFD discussion: June 2018–March 2019

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DTLHS (talk) 20:43, 30 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

What is the deletion rationale? Doesn't seem entirely SoP to me, based on market value. I have linked the abbreviation SMV which we already had. Equinox 21:19, 30 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Strong keep Popular term that deserves inclusion, there is no reason for why it should be excluded. Amin (talk) 11:04, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

I'm not convinced it should be deleted, but you haven't provided any reason for why it should be kept either. Per utramque cavernam 11:14, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
It should go the other way: Giving a reason for deletion, then seeing if it applies, is convincing, and no reason given = no reason for deletion.
I can think of only three reasons:
  • 1. not politically correct, immoral, offensive - which is no reason for deletion.
  • 2. It doesn't exist, isn't attestable (WT:CFI) - this would be a matter for WT:RFVE and not of WT:RFD.
  • 3. SOP. The parsing question might be a reason for keep. Is it sexual market + value (~ Germ. *Wert auf dem sexuellen Markt oder Sexualmarkt, *Sexualmarkt-wert) or sexual + market value (~ Germ. *sexueller Marktwert).
-80.133.107.120 12:48, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
>"you haven't provided any reason for why it should be kept" - @Per utramque cavernam:
I did; "Popular term" Amin (talk) 18:56, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • Leaning delete…I also see results for "emotional market value", "romantic market value", "intellectual market value", "nutritional market value", "environmental market value", "political market value" etc etc etc. Ƿidsiþ 19:07, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
I think you accidentally proved my point that sexual market value deserved to be included lol. I searched for the terms you mentioned, here are the results.
Google search results:
"sexual market value": 35.000
"emotional market value": 22
"romantic market value": 338
"intellectual market value": 24
"nutritional market value": 765
"environmental market value": 21
"political market value": 6
Amin (talk) 02:52, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
"Sexual market value" only gets 500 hits on Google Books, an order of magnitude less than, say, "intrinsic market value" or "real market value". Should those have entries as well? Ƿidsiþ 07:39, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
Leaning keep. It seems to be specific PUA/incel/online misogynists jargon, refer to Google Groups for examples. The mentioned abbreviation SMV imo also contributions to its worthiness of inclusion. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 16:15, 13 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
Looks like there's also sexual economics as research field, where they talk about the sexual marketplace, so it's not just incel jargon. – Jberkel 01:23, 14 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Kept. bd2412 T 16:14, 3 March 2019 (UTC)Reply