Talk:scorpion spider

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Chambers 1908 says this is a whip scorpion. Equinox 13:17, 24 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

RFV discussion: May–November 2019

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Definition: Synonym of pseudoscorpion.

Everywhere I look, I see this as a synonym of sun spider, which is another type of scorpion-like arachnid. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:18, 4 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

I found it on several different blogs, so it would seem to be an informal name for pseudoscorpion. NBC News also called it such [1], though with a hyphen, unlike the blogs.
The Phrynus genus, Amblypygi order (whip spiders), and Pedipalpida order (false spiders) also seems to be called scorpion-spider. (which are also not Solifugae order (sun spiders))
-- 70.51.201.106 22:36, 4 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I got my wires crossed on the sun spider part, I probably should have said whip spider. By the way, the correct way to refer to taxonomic names and ranks is rank first, then name: "The genus Phrynus, in the order Amblypygi" (not Pedipalpida, which is obsolete, and overlaps with Amblypygi). As for blogs, those mean absolutely nothing when it comes to our Criteria for inclusion. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:08, 5 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Though, on further examination of the Google Books searches I was looking at originally, there are a number of references to Galeodes, which is in the Solifugae, and even some true spiders, such as Platyoides in the family Trochanteriidae. All of which is beside the point: there are zero references to Pseudoscorpions as "scorpion spiders". If you had done any kind of search, you would have had to wade through pages and pages of references to other orders of arachnids as scorpion spiders without seeing anything using "scorpion spider" as a name for pseudoscorpions. I still haven't found one after going through an unrestricted Google search that should have pulled in all of your blogs. Chuck Entz (talk) 08:18, 5 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 17:45, 26 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps the meaning was wrong but the phrase does seem to exist with some kind of meaning. Wikipedia has an entry, and Chambers 1908 says it is a whip scorpion. Equinox 01:07, 27 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Then someone who understands the species better than I do should recreate the entry with proper citations. Kiwima (talk) 20:28, 27 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
Searching for scorpion spider alone is not nearly as productive as using a taxonomic name with scorpion. Against one's naive expectations, cites with scorpion spider and the taxonomic name appear. I think I could meet WT:ATTEST for all three senses now in the entry. The cites already on the citation page include enough to cover the "whip scorpion" definition. DCDuring (talk) 02:48, 28 November 2019 (UTC)Reply