Talk:quadran

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quadran

Simply defined as "square", with no context. @SemperBlotto created it. Equinox ◑ 07:15, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

It's in OED (SB was apparently doing a trawl of Latinate numeric prefixes in OED that day) but in true OED fashion, none of the noun cites are actually spelt this way - Quadern (1578), quadrons, Quadraines, Quadren, Quadrains (1653). The purpose of the entry seems to be a catch-all for forms of quadrant that showed a loss of final -t. This, that and the other (talk) 08:12, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Oof. If none of the cites are of this word/spelling, I don't think we can just assume like the OED that the other words/spellings support this, particularly if the forms in -s above could be taken to be renderings or borrowings of Latin quadrāns instead (where the -s is part of the base word, not a plural of *quadran), like seems to be the case here. - -sche (discuss) 14:38, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

The OED uses in -s are definitely plurals. Nonetheless, I don't think this is worth keeping. This sort of rare alternative spelling can be collected at quadrant, I think. This, that and the other (talk) 22:36, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

cited Kiwima (talk) 04:53, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 21:40, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Only two of those citations contain "quadran". The first has "quadern". 98.170.164.88 18:34, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

And can we be sure that the second cite isnt just a variant spelling of cauldron? Given the fungibility of medieval English spelling, and the many other odd spellings in this text specifically, writing qua for /ka/ in a French loanword is perfectly reasonable, and we already know that the L was silent. —Soap— 09:30, 14 May 2022 (UTC)