Talk:pass stool

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pass stool

SOP. One can pass stool, blood, etc.​—msh210℠ (talk) 16:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

We do have pass water and pass wind. --Mglovesfun (talk) 20:47, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Both of which have now been tagged with an {{rfd}} tag linking to this section. Delete 'em all, I say.​—msh210℠ (talk) 21:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Is it conceivable that a non-native speaker of English might think that a person having difficulty in passing water had a psychological problem with walking past a lake? SemperBlotto 21:23, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

And sometimes it does mean that: [1]. But if he looks up (deprecated template usage) pass he'll know another meaning of that verb. But I take back my "delete" for pass water, as water doesn't mean urine. (I'll keep the nomination, since it's here already.) I maintain pass wind and (especially) pass stool should be deleted as SOP.​—msh210℠ (talk) 21:35, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: "water doesn't mean urine": Actually, it does. (Our sense 9.) It seems to occur most often in pass water, make water, pass one's water, and make one's water, but a b.g.c. search for "the patient's water" finds cites like this one and this one. —Ruakh_TALK 13:54, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Thanks. Delete that one, too.​—msh210℠ (talk) 22:32, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

• Ambivalent about the term in question, but definitely keep pass water and pass wind. Ƿidsiþ 08:17, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Note that we have this sense for (deprecated template usage) wind, with a usex with pass.​—msh210℠ (talk) 16:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

There seems to me to be a semantic difference between passing water/urine, gas/fart/wind, and stool, etc. and (deprecated template usage) passing something (blood, poison, indigesta, etc) in those media (or other excreta such as vomit, hair, perspiration, exhalation). The latter sense views the excreta as a sort of container vehicle for the object. Also, the latter sense is medical or nearly medical in its context, whereas the others are perhaps euphemistic, but in general usage. DCDuring TALK 17:32, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I noticed the difference you point out here, and couldn't figure out whether it was inherent in the word (two senses) or not (two referents, same sense, like how brown refers to many different colors which don't get their own sense lines). Still can't, in fact.​—msh210℠ (talk) 22:36, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

It is only because there might be a context difference that the modest semantic difference might be worth recording. I won't lose any sleep over combining these putative subsenses. DCDuring TALK 22:53, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

As a non native English speaker, I looked for the expression "pass wind" and have found it in the dictionary. I have found it useful, so why should it be deleted?--93.32.52.65 23:55, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Hesitant delete for pass stool. DAVilla 03:42, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

• keep pass wind as I just looked it up to see if we had an entry here. --Rockpilot 21:30, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Keep. To pass is too polysemous for non-native speakers. The "default" definitions of water (something ones drinks), wind (weather phenomenon) and stool (a low chair with no back) are not exactly the same as the definitions used in these phrases. Keep them all. Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C} 22:28, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

kept, no consensus -- Liliana • 22:45, 18 February 2012 (UTC)