Talk:oblongate
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[edit]seems and should have some sort of perfect meaning "oblongate, strongly thickened" Saumache (talk) 12:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Saumache: What adjective form? Why should we define oblongate as “oblongate”? J3133 (talk) 12:54, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- The title refers to the adjective heading, I'm not getting your point, mine was that the adjective may bear some sort of perfect meaning ("oblongated", "that has been oblongated" or, more subtly "which has gained an oblong shape"). But it may well be just one of these "abusive" use of the -ate suffix (see authenticate, alienate, extrinsicate), but its use is commonplace in deriving "science-only" adjectives, it's probably not any deeper than that ("bearing an oblong shape" versus "oblong"). I have not read any other use of this word and was just guessing. Saumache (talk) 16:10, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Saumache: Oblongate is not an “adjective form”, and the point that it should have the meaning “oblongate” does not make sense because it is the same term. J3133 (talk)
- "and the point that it should have the meaning “oblongate” does not make sense because it is the same term" I never said that. I didn't know the expression "adjective form", hence the confusing, thanks for pointing it out. Saumache (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Saumache: You did, writing that oblongate “should have some sort of perfect meaning ‘oblongate’”, repeating the term itself. J3133 (talk) 16:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I.e., even if it meant “strongly thickened”, we would not use oblongate as it would be a circular definition. J3133 (talk) 18:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oh ok... the quote in my first message was just me citing the example under oblongate, pointing at the fact that the adjective was used along a participial adjective (thickened), sorry for the confusion. Saumache (talk) 18:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- "and the point that it should have the meaning “oblongate” does not make sense because it is the same term" I never said that. I didn't know the expression "adjective form", hence the confusing, thanks for pointing it out. Saumache (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Saumache: Oblongate is not an “adjective form”, and the point that it should have the meaning “oblongate” does not make sense because it is the same term. J3133 (talk)
- The title refers to the adjective heading, I'm not getting your point, mine was that the adjective may bear some sort of perfect meaning ("oblongated", "that has been oblongated" or, more subtly "which has gained an oblong shape"). But it may well be just one of these "abusive" use of the -ate suffix (see authenticate, alienate, extrinsicate), but its use is commonplace in deriving "science-only" adjectives, it's probably not any deeper than that ("bearing an oblong shape" versus "oblong"). I have not read any other use of this word and was just guessing. Saumache (talk) 16:10, 13 November 2024 (UTC)