Talk:no smoking

Deletion discussion

This entry was nominated for deletion, and the result was a decision to keep it for phrasebook use, per the following discussion. bd2412 T 19:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

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Sum-of-parts. There's also no biking, no running, no shoplifting etc. It's a meaning of the word no. Shoof 18:18, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

This should be kept, but only as part of the phrasebook. People would want to know what a "no smoking" sign means or looks like, or to understand what the annoyed looking coughing person pointing at them is saying. I added the phrasebook tag. --Jeffqyzt 21:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Keep. It’s a set phrase with specific, unpredictable translations. Many languages differentiate between smoking tobacco and other kinds of smoke. Also, this construction is a negative imperative, which is a special use of no+-ing and by no stretch of the imagination the sum of its parts. —Stephen 00:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Shoof gives a number of similar constructions, but you're right that there's a specific meaning of smoke. Weak keep as idiomatic. If nothing else, certainly qualifies for phrasebook. DAVilla 22:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

The "similar construction" that he proposes are, in my experience, rarely if ever seen in print. I can imagine that there may be places that say "No bicycles" or something like that, but since shoplifting is never allowed anywhere, it’s not something that people put on a sign. However, there are other phrases that really are in use, and we should have them here. Some examples: no loitering, no flash photography, no cellphones. I think there are only a few common expressions such as these and they would be very useful entries. —Stephen 15:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Depending on where you are, also: no soliciting and no shirt, no shoes, no service. --EncycloPetey 16:31, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Keep for the Phrasebook. --EncycloPetey 01:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Keep for the Phrasebook.--Jusjih 14:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Kept. bd2412 T 19:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

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