Talk:nesiotes

RFV discussion: June–August 2024

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nesiotes

Latin. Noted to be taxonomic. Can any third-declension adjective forms be attested? The source is a Greek first-declension masculine noun.--Urszag (talk) 17:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't know if it makes any difference, but "nesiotis" is attested as a specific epithet. That sure looks like the genitive of a third declension noun, but it doesn't seem to make sense semantically (the species are all island dwellers, not "of island dwellers"). I should also mention that "nesiotes" occurs with both masculine and feminine generic names, which is consistent with a third declension adjective- but it could also be a (nominative) third declension noun in apposition. Odd. Before this, I was only familiar with nesiotica as a specific epithet, which is unambiguously a first/third declension adjective. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

"Nesiotis" could be a Romanization of νησιῶτις, -ιδος, the feminine of νησιώτης.--Urszag (talk) 05:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

There are 88 accepted species names in the Catalogue of Life in which nesiotes appears as an epithet, as well as the genus name Nesiotes (certain weevils). There are 16 accepted species names with nesiotis. There are 40 accepted species with forms of nesoticus (+ 1 nesioticos). So "translingual" attestation is abundant. DCDuring (talk) 23:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! It's hard to tell from this kind of data whether it is meant as an invariably spelled third-declension adjective nesiotes, genitive nesiotis (corresponding to the seemingly non-existent Greek *νησιωτής, genitive *νησιωτοῦς, neuter *νησιωτές), or a masculine first-declension noun nesiotes, genitive nesiotae (corresponding to the attested νησιώτης m., genitive νησῐώτου) and feminine third-declension noun nesiotis, genitive nesiotidis (corresponding to Greek νησιῶτις, -ιδος) used in apposition. Nesiotis seems to appear most often with feminine genera, although I'm not sure about " Diplosolenodes nesiotis" and "Holarchus nesiotis". I lean towards thinking they are nouns ("islander" and "female islander", respectively), as in Greek, unless demonstrated otherwise.--Urszag (talk) 02:23, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

RFV-failed as a Latin third-declension adjective of one termination. Based on the translingual attestation, I plan to move it to a Translingual noun.--Urszag (talk) 05:03, 21 August 2024 (UTC)