Talk:naaʼahóóhaiłbáhí
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Latest comment: 10 years ago by Stephen G. Brown in topic That interstitial "h"
That interstitial "h"
[edit]Given what I've seen so far, other instances of nominalization with -í just take the suffix directly, so I'd expect łibá to nominalize as łibáí, not łibáhí. Does anyone know why that "h" shows up towards the end in this term?
- It’s called a ligature h. An h is sometimes inserted as a ligature between an open stem vowel and an enclitic, as: tóhígíí (tó + -ígíí = the water); tóhę́ę (tó + ę́ę = the aforementioned water); shimáhą́ą (shimá + ą́ą = my former mother).
- Also, the stem -bá (gray) is frequently associated with an h. -bá comes from -bááh (to become/make gray). The imperfective stem is -bááh, iterative is -bah, perfective is -baʼ, future is -bah, optative is -bááh, neuter imperfective is -bá. —Stephen (Talk) 19:57, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- Excellent, thank you! Does the name "ligature" imply that this is not pronounced, and is purely a typographical feature? My guess from your description of the verb paradigm is that no, this is pronounced; though then the name "ligature" is a bit misleading. Ah, well -- Y&M sometimes have chosen odd (to me) labels for things. Took me a while to 1) understand what was meant by, and then 2) accept the terminology choice for, the label "neuter verb", for instance. :)
- Thanks again for the detail! ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 00:53, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- It’s pronounced. There is also a ligature n. When -í or -ígíí are added to a verb stem that ends in an open short nasalized vowel with high tone, a ligature n is inserted before the enclitic: sitį́ (he lies) = sitíní, sitínígíí (the one that lies). To me, ligature means connecting. —Stephen (Talk) 17:56, 8 March 2014 (UTC)