Talk:nɨʔ

RFD discussion: August 2019–March 2020

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nɨʔ

This is an IPA transcription, not the actual orthography. --Lvovmauro (talk) 06:35, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

It is a mild (and in my eyes quite reasonable) variant of the practical orthography developed by the Project for the Documentation of the Languages of Mesoamerica (PDLMA), which can be written with a conventional English-language typewriter that has a backspace (for constructing such characters as ɨ). This variant orthography is used in the Ph.D. dissertation given as the first reference of the Highland Popoluca entry. Its author writes: “The only exception in my use of orthographies is the glottal stop. I use the symbol ʔ, rather than the symbol 7.” The PDLMA orthography may be practical, but the 7 for a glottal stop is particularly ugly. I am not arguing that we should adopt this orthographic variant here, but the question arises: what is the “actual orthography”? Which (of several) orthographies should we use? Of all lemmas of the Mixe–Zoque family, this is the only one that displays a glottal stop.  --Lambiam 11:45, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm following the orthography of the published dictionary. If there's some other orthography used in vernacular texts (the dissertation mentions a "community" orthography), we should use that, but I don't think we should be using technical transcriptions only used by linguists, nor do I think it's a good idea to try to transliterate from one orthography to another if a word is not actually attested in the latter orthography. --Lvovmauro (talk) 06:06, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

• RFD-deleted. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 05:32, 23 March 2020 (UTC)