Talk:mmọñ

@-sche, where is this orthography from? The usual Nigerian standards would use ñ for /ŋ/, not n̄. I don't know much about any of these languages other than Efik, where I do know ñ is used, but I would be surprised if it is not the same way for the rest. Also, we should mark the tones on the headword. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 02:19, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't know; @DerekWinters created the entry, possibly just based on the orthography that was in [[water]], which was added by Liliana. Please move the entry if needed. :) - -sche (discuss) 03:22, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

DerekWinters is on wikibreak, and Liliana was never very careful with orthography. I'll move it, but I'd appreciate if you could check other Nigerian languages as you happen upon them, because there are too many of these oddities for me to fix! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 04:00, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

I'll do what I can. Looking through the 'A's to start with for things that might need to be de-diacriticked, would I be right to make the following moves?:

• ə̀mùum → ǝmuum

  ə̀mʊ̀ʊ̀m → ǝmụụm

• íɲí → ???
• ɛ́mɔ̀ɔ̀ → ẹmọọ
• mʉ́ɣá → mụga(?)

or what is the preferred orthography for these?

I already made some other simpler moves which just involved stripping tone marks. - -sche (discuss) 04:42, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Finding information to confirm these is really hard. Akpes, for example, is badly documented, and the material I could find quickly was on a dialect that didn't even have that phoneme. Atong is not spoken in Nigeria and I haven't seen much evidence of other countries trying to use their standards (plus, I'm not sure how [ʉ] fits in its vowel scheme). For truly unwritten languages, I think it's fine to use IPA or whatever the linguists used, but we should just aim for better orthographic practices when we can. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 04:58, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

As an example, I see that Blench says there are only three sources of data on Ambele, and the only extended one seems to be unavailable online (and I can't find it on WorldCat either, so it is presumably not in any libraries). At that point, we would be overreaching pointlessly were we to devise an orthography. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 05:20, 12 March 2018 (UTC)