Talk:mixed herbs

RFD discussion: September 2023

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mixed herbs

Not idiomatic, unless there is a specific mix that this usually refers to (which I doubt there is). — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 08:02, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Keep. It's a specific product, usually sold in small bottles in food stores. DonnanZ (talk) 08:50, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

@Donnanz: Is it the same thing as herbes de Provence? PUC – 10:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

@PUC: I don't know. But you can google "mixed herbs", which should prove that it's a specific product. DonnanZ (talk) 10:42, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

The current definition is not SoP because it lists specific herbs, so this should be at RFV. Equinox ◑ 21:57, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

No, it’s SOP, Donnanz is making a paralogism and Equinox answers due to the anchoring effect. It is always specific herbs, but not lexicalized to mean any specific consistent ones – this is also what the definition tells. Hence of course even more herbs participate and the alleged idiom loses its contours. ”Namely, black pepper, cinnamon, cloves, ginger, garlic, oregano, paprika, rosemary, and turmeric.” I see it must be a specific product, don’t deny this, if it is mentioned in a table of foods likely to contain something, even The Rocky Mountain Cook Book 1903 p. 26 contains a teaspoonful of it in a recipe for bouillon, but as said this does not make the term idiomatic, it means there is a statistical distribution of what such products (even if homemade) contain. Fay Freak (talk) 22:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Probably keep, including it in Category:en:Cooking or whatever category. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 09:33, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Weak keep. I have a few thoughts on this. Fay Freak is right that this isn't restricted to one specific mixture, but it does seem to be restricted: curry leaves, for example, are seemingly never part of "mixed herbs". That aside, I don't think the idea of it being specifically a purchasable mixture for ready use in cooking is conveyed by the parts. It's also noteworthy that in the cooking context it's often referred to in the singular, as in "mixed herbs is...", which suggests some degree of lexicalisation. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 21:28, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Kept. PUC – 09:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC)