Talk:legitimate

which Etymology for noun

I would like to make an entry for the use of this word as a noun. Antonymous to bastard. I am not sure which etymology to put it under. They seek very similar. ScratchMarshall (talk) 20:54, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

I've added it under the first etymology. DTLHS (talk) 20:55, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Etymology scriptorium convo

• Wiktionary:Etymology_scriptorium/2017/July#legitimate

--Barytonesis (talk) 21:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

adj: relating to serious professional drama; transitive: 2. prove something to be lawful:

to argue or prove that a claim or action is lawful or reasonable 
Performing or involving professionally produced dramatic works that are considered to be serious art, in contrast to such forms as burlesque, revues, and musical comedy
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009

--Backinstadiums (talk) 10:06, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Legitimate Children: Narrow and Broad Sense?

I suspect that "Lawfully begotten, i.e., born to a legally married couple." is the narrow sense for a "legitimate" child, with the broad sense being "Lawfully begotten, i.e., born to a legally married couple (or otherwise legitimated subsequently)." I think "Lawfully begotten" would cover both senses, but that "i.e., born to a legally married couple" narrows the meaning drastically and ignores legitimate children who were legitimated after the fact. And I wonder how delegitimation could affect things. You may say "oh, this is just an edge case broski", but you never use the phrase "legitimate child" for a child unless there's a question of legitimacy. So really this goes to the heart of what it means to be "legitimate". And my feeling is that after whatever process of legitimation occurs, there are still going to be people saying the child is illegitimate under the narrow sense. So the broad sense is the legal sense and the narrow sense is that sense. NOTE: There is another category between illegitimate and legitimate where you are "officially acknowledged but illegitimate" where you can still inherit from the father. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:44, 12 December 2023 (UTC) (Modified)