Talk:kumpi
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Hekaheka
Determiner
[edit]As far as I'm aware, a pronoun can either be (among other categories) a determiner or a interrogative pronoun. But "kumpi" is shown as being either a pronoun or a determiner, which sounds wrong to me.
Albeit that, the description shown under "determiner" is that of an interrogative pronoun. To be a determiner, it should mean "this/that one (of the two)".
So, either the section "determiner" is wrong and should be deleted, or the explanation is wrong and should be revised. I'm not a native speaker of Finnish, but the dictionaries I have available support the first option. 181.90.102.97 14:08, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- In the terminology handled at Wiktionary, "determiners" take compliments, whereas "pronouns" don't:
- Which cookie did you take? - determiner, modifies "cookie"
- Which did you take? - pronoun, modifies nothing
- However, I agree that both usage examples display a pronoun rather than a determiner, you'd want something like kumpi keksi on varastettu? instead. @Surjection, Hekaheka as I don't know if the Finnish word can be used this way. Thadh (talk) 14:24, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it can. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 14:45, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Then on the other hand, don't we in the Finnish grammar classify "kumpi" as interrogative pronoun disregarding its function in a sentence? Shouldn't the Finnish articles follow Finnish rather than English grammar conventions?--Hekaheka (talk) 15:10, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it can. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 14:45, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Perhaps it could read like this:
Pronoun
[edit]kumpi