Talk:island

CJKV Characters

CJKV Characters isn't a language, why do we have a translation for it? Can't we just add them as individual languages (Mandarin, Cantonese, etc.)? Mglovesfun (talk) 16:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

RFD discussion: November 2015

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island

Rfd-sense "An unincorporated area wholly surrounded by one or more incorporated areas.", because it is an unnecessary specialization of sense #2: "An entity surrounded by other entities that are very different from itself.". --WikiTiki89 22:40, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

• Keep: Sense #2 is metaphorical in a different way than the sense up for deletion is. I would also note that the sense up for deletion is used to form geographic place names. Purplebackpack89 22:44, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

If this is the official name for these things, used by government etc., then I'd say keep. (I've never actually heard of it before.) It would be a specialisation, but perhaps a specific one worth having (as subsense, possibly?); compare field. Equinox ◑ 16:24, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete. DCDuring TALK 18:56, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

• Can we verify this sense as existing in more than a metaphorical sense? bd2412 T 23:33, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
  • @BD2412 There are place names bearing "Island" where island refers to the sense of a wholly surrounded unincorporated area. Anaheim Island, California, South Monrovia Island, California and The Island, New Jersey (wholly surrounded by Trenton) are three examples. Purplebackpack89 02:34, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
    • I don't see how that is distinct from a thing surrounded by another kind of thing. bd2412 T 05:08, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
      • @BD2412 "A thing surrounded by another kind of thing" is an impossibly broad and vague definition that could apply to lots and lots and lots of things. The original, geographic sense of island isn't distinct from "a thing surrounded by another kind of thing"...it's a thing (land) surrounded by another kind of thing (water). IMO, "A thing surrounded by another kind of thing" is a bad definition and should be broken up into several clearer, more specific definitions. Purplebackpack89 14:09, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. I think that all other senses suggesting a thing surrounded by other kinds of things are basically metaphorical references to the sense of land surrounded by water. bd2412 T 15:38, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
• Keep Has a strict legal definition and therefore passes the prior knowledge test. It appears for example in court proceedings:

• The City of Beaverton (city) extended its boundaries and encircled that territory so that its boundaries were contiguous to the territory on all sides. It is undisputed that that territory thus became an island, within the meaning of the island annexation statute, and that Oregon law authorizes the city to annex that territory in its entirety without the approval of the owners of property in the territory. [In fact, if you look further down you'll find out that under Oregon law, an island in this sense must not be surrounded on all sides by water.]
• We are unpersuaded by defendants' argument that the 19.73-acre Cambrian Park Plaza may, and should, be treated as an island within the larger 600-acre island of Cambrian Park. Doing so, we think, would defeat the statutory purpose that only 'entire islands' within a city's confines be annexed.
• While certainly this legislation helped to eliminate some islands, many are still in existence today.

Smurrayinchester (talk) 16:07, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Then you wouldn't object to adding a {{lb|en|legal}} tag? --WikiTiki89 16:25, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps {{lb|en|government}} or {{lb|en|geography}} would be better, but I wouldn't object. Smurrayinchester (talk) 12:10, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

No consensus to delete. bd2412 T 16:30, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Kitchen Island?

Another definition should be added, that of an island in a kitchen. Plenty of results on google, dictionary.com includes this definition too. I'm not going to add it though, since I have a gut feeling this used to be included, but was removed for whatever reason. Mocha2007 (talk) 23:15, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Microgrids

The biggest hits for the verb ‘island’ on GoogleBooks by far is for the form ‘islanded’ and ‘islanding’ which seems to be a technical electronics term relating to microgrids. We should perhaps have a separate sense for that but I’ll leave it to the experts to write it. Overlordnat1 (talk) 10:30, 29 March 2022 (UTC)