Talk:isekai

RFD discussion: April–December 2021

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isekai

Sense 2: "Transcription of 異世界". I don't see how this is a sense of an English word. Equinox ◑ 22:02, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Transcriptions do not constitute terms in another language. Given the context of the quote in that entry, from a text by a Japanese author and with a Japanese character uttering that sentence, I'd be inclined to view that as code switching. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 00:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

• Move the transcription under a “Japanese” heading. (Compare arigatō (arigatō).) — SGconlaw (talk) 03:18, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

  There is already a “Japanese” heading classifying this as a romanization; the question is to delete or not to delete.  --Lambiam 10:32, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Whether uses of the countable noun isekai in the sense of “alternate world” are instances of code-switching or indicate incorporation into the English lexicon cannot be decided by consulting a single source. Here is another book use: “An isekai is a dangerous world.”^[1] I think this also qualifies (if it is durably archived): “To his surprise, when he woke up, he was reincarnated as a baby in an isekai of swords and magic.”^[2]  --Lambiam 10:32, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Given the context of both works is anime / manga, the entry should clearly indicate that this term is specific to these speech communities. I'm not certain of the correct labeling, or I'd add that myself.

We appear to be missing any sense line that would fit the citations provided so far.

For the sense line at issue here, though, I think delete is the only clear approach -- transcription alone doesn't signify the creation of a lexical item, and the citations show more than just transcription. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 23:00, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Delete per above. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 13:23, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Delete the transcription/transliteration sense. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:50, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Deleted. I moved the citation to the citations page. If there are citations that demonstrate that isekai means "alternate world", that sense could be discussed on its own merits. - -sche (discuss) 21:29, 5 December 2021 (UTC)