Talk:igen

igen#Hungarian derivation

Is this not just the usual -en adverbial from the same root as igaz — ultimately from jó, then jóg and later variant jog?

Pinging @Panda10, @Adam78, @Tropylium, @Einstein2. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 07:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Probably not: I've just added a link to ÚESz., which says the same as the source that was already there. Adam78 (talk) 10:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Should have been back-harmonic ˣigon if this were from jog, and is also attested probably too early (13th C.) with already i-.

The old Uralic etymology from *šeŋä (Uralonet Entry #1002) still does not look entirely terrible, but only Permic really makes a halfway feasible cognate (if it were contracted from something like *šeŋä-ńä; originally assumed *ŋ > ń would be ad hoc in this environment). --Tropylium (talk) 15:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

I've expanded the etymology based on the ÚESz. entry. The -en does seem to be an adverbial suffix. Einstein2 (talk) 15:33, 3 September 2024 (UTC)