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Has language codes and templates for both Dutch and German, language name "Liechtensteiner German". DTLHS (talk) 22:07, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Rename to Alemannic German. —CodeCat 22:11, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- The example puzzles me: I would expect Alemannic German to have a dramatically different equivalent for Standard German wie geht's. Perhaps it is Alemannic German–influenced Standard German? — Eru·tuon 22:18, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- I've heard hoi in this sense from Dutch people, but I don't know anyone from Liechtenstein, so I don't know if they say this or not. I'd recommend RFVing to find out if it exists in any High German variety at all, and if so, if it's Liechtenstein Standard German, Liechtenstein Alemannic, or what. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 10:57, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- de.Wikt has it as
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, labelled "süddeutsch", "südostdeutsch", "österreichisch" and "schweizerisch", with a citation that is clearly dialectal(-flavoured)de
, and I also find it in Stephan Alfare's Das Schafferhaus (as part of the compound greeting "hoi! servus!") in German sentences like "hoi, servus! deine Mama hat mich raufgeschickt!". A story, found in both Märchen aus Böhmen, Mähren und der Slowakei and Märchen aus Tschechien, has "Hoi, Herr, umgekehrt; gerade weil ich zu scharf sehe, muss ich mir die Augen verbinden." It may also be used in Alemannic, but I'm going to label it as German and broaden the label. Incidentally, Arno Ruoff and Peter Löffelad's Syntax und Stilistik der Alltagssprache (1997) concludes from the absence of the greeting hoi from the Schweizerischen Idiotikon, and other evidence, that it may be a rather recent word. - -sche (discuss) 18:26, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
- de.Wikt has it as
- I've heard hoi in this sense from Dutch people, but I don't know anyone from Liechtenstein, so I don't know if they say this or not. I'd recommend RFVing to find out if it exists in any High German variety at all, and if so, if it's Liechtenstein Standard German, Liechtenstein Alemannic, or what. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 10:57, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- The example puzzles me: I would expect Alemannic German to have a dramatically different equivalent for Standard German wie geht's. Perhaps it is Alemannic German–influenced Standard German? — Eru·tuon 22:18, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
German: move to GSW?
[edit]Compare with Alemannic German grüezi. Fytcha (talk) 14:41, 26 October 2021 (UTC)