Talk:grassroots leader

RFD discussion: October–November 2017

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grassroots leader

SoP? SemperBlotto (talk) 08:49, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. — SGconlaw (talk) 09:36, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
• Definition not what I expected from SoP term. Reminds me of US astroturfing. DCDuring (talk) 19:36, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
• As I have learnt recently Singapore has its own brand of English, as well as Singlish. But Sgconlaw should know better than anybody else. DonnanZ (talk) 10:18, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
  • As mentioned above, I feel that the term is SoP. The person in question is still a leader of a grassroots organization, regardless of how he or she is appointed. In Singapore many union leaders are also government-appointed, but I would not feel that it is necessary to have a specific definition for union leader. — SGconlaw (talk) 21:21, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
• Keep if the definition is accurate. It's not at all what I would have expected from [[grassroots]] + [[leader]]. I was expecting a definition that would include someone like Cindy Sheehan. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:03, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
• Keep. Definition seems more specific (and local to Asia?) than the parts would imply. Equinox ◑ 19:07, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

It certainly can't mean "top-down management approach". Of the citations only one is "durably archived". It doesn't support the idea of government appointment. Is it really government appointment or government approval of a volunteer? DCDuring (talk) 22:27, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Does this need RfC, RfV or RfD? In the absence of citations this RfD seems premature. I don't see how the definition can be improved without citations. Is it a euphemism? Is it doublespeak? Keep and move to RfV DCDuring (talk) 22:44, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

See People's Association (Singapore) on Wikipedia.Wikipedia for context. DCDuring (talk) 23:06, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

• Keep An interesting collocation at least, never heard it in Indian or American English. —Aryaman ^{(मुझसे बात करो)} 21:55, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
• Keep - contrary to the usual meaning of grass roots "People and society at the local (most basic) level rather than at the national centre of political activity" (as per Wiktionary definition), in Singapore the government controls the grass roots organisations and appoints leaders of these groups which then conduct government initiatives, etc., in accordance with gov't policies. - Sonofcawdrey (talk) 02:12, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Also, no need to RFV this - there are bazillions of cites - easily passes as in common use.-Sonofcawdrey (talk) 02:33, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

• Keep - the meaning is more specific than the sum of its parts. Palaestrator verborum (loquier) 15:26, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
• RFD kept. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 00:56, 21 November 2017 (UTC)