Talk:girlmeat

RFV discussion: March 2022

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girlmeat

Graham11 (talk) 06:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Cited now. "Lee" and "Curt" are certainly the same person, so I moved one of those quotes to the Citations page. I couldn't find the Usenet message from "Tom", so I removed it. This, that and the other (talk) 08:10, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

So a citation from a printed work not scanned and accessible through Google is subject to removal because it is not conveniently verifiable. That would mean that a work for which OCLC documents the existence and the location of libraries with copies but which Google has not scanned or has hidden from access would not a valid citation source. That would seem to be beyond what WT:ATTEST requires. Shouldn't we at least VOTE on being that dependent on Google before removing content? DCDuring (talk) 15:13, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Usenet is allowed based on the fiction that it has easily accessible durably archived electronic messages accessible via Google. This is specifically mentioned in WT:CFI. If a Usenet post is hard to find, not conveniently verifiable, I support not counting it towards the three use minimum. That does not require us to remove quotations that originally appeared on paper, even if they only exist in dusty volumes in the long term offsite storage warehouse of a library. WT:CFI encourages but does not require print media to be "indexed online". It would require a vote to exclude print media that is not available online. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 18:39, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand your point. One of the books I cited was found in Internet Archive, the other in Google Books. As for removing the quote from "Tom", it added no real value, and "Tom" may even be a further pseudonym of the individual who posted the other posts. This, that and the other (talk) 00:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

In any case, I restored the "Tom" quote to the citations page. This, that and the other (talk) 00:59, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Why does it need to be conveniently verifiable? Surely it just needs to be verifiable. Theknightwho (talk) 02:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

RFV-passed This, that and the other (talk) 08:44, 27 March 2022 (UTC)