Talk:get over

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These senses are all redundant and can be duplicated with "to be over". See over for new preposition defns. that cover these:

1. (idiomatic) To overcome something

   I'll try to get over my fear of flying.

   I am over my fear of flying.

2. (idiomatic) To recover from something

   I'm having problems getting over a bad cold.

   I'm over my bad cold.

3. (idiomatic) To forget, and move on

   She was in love with me for 10 years, and still hasn't got over the fact that the feeling wasn't mutual.

   She was in love with me for 10 years, and still isn't over the fact that the feeling wasn't mutual.

Facts707 10:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• Keep. While I think it's good that we cover this at (deprecated template usage) over, I also think that if we have a (deprecated template usage) get over page then we need to show all of the ways this collocation is used. Ƿidsiþ 10:42, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Keep per Ƿidsiþ. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:52, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Keep This appears in McGraw-Hill's Dict. of Amer. Idioms and Phrasal Verbs, for example, and as a run-in entry in some other dictionaries under (deprecated template usage) get.

However, we still lack any explicit criteria for distinguishing a verb + PP combination and a phrasal verb + complement combination. We have many entries in Category:English phrasal verbs, more or less following the treatment of Quirk at al. But CGEL, for example, dismisses the distinct grammatical identity of phrasal verbs, providing no help with the distinction that some seem to be able to make. DCDuring TALK 13:01, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

@Widsith: Facts707 is actually RFDing the entire entry. The three senses (s)he lists are the only senses we have there. —Ruakh_TALK 21:51, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

• Keep, I think. How come we can say "I got over it", but not *"I became over it"? I think it's because "get over" is an idiom. —Ruakh_TALK 14:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• I think it's because "to be" (over it) indicates a state (you're either over it or you're not), while "to get" (over it) indicates a process, meaning that you can speak of it as something happening over time. Keep. Pingku 16:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• Abstain. Actually, "become" also works with processes: I've gradually become more and more familiar with the topic. But on further reflection, I think the reason is simply that "become" isn't as comfortable with prepositional phrases as "get" is, not that "get over" specifically is an idiom. —Ruakh_TALK 16:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• Agreed. Perhaps the idiom is "to get over an obstacle." Pingku 16:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Keep per Ƿidsiþ. -- ALGRIF talk 17:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• (Addition to request) Get over is just one example of the use of the over#Preposition "hurdle" preposition: "From one state to another via a hindrance that must be solved or defeated; or via a third state that represents a significant difference from the first two." Temporary states (such as a cold or distress over the loss of a relationship) can also be described as processes, burdens, events, etc. We could also say I'm finally through my cold, I'm out from under my cold, I want to get past my cold, I am past my cold, He went through a divorce, etc. Go through is listed as a verb, but not be through, get out from under, go past, be past. Do we need to create a phrasal verb for every use of an object as an analogy?
  Also, if we are going to list get over don't we have to list all its other forms, such as get over the fence, etc.? This does make for an interesting debate. Cheers, Facts707 18:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• • Kept per consensus and the lemming test --Rising Sun talk? contributions 22:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

can’t get over something

​ (informal) used to say that you are shocked, surprised, etc. by something

I can't get over how rude she was.
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/get?q=get

--Backinstadiums (talk) 10:10, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

We managed to get over the wall

Idiomatic? --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:27, 13 September 2020 (UTC)