Talk:fever swamp
Add topicLatest comment: 7 years ago by Izuko
Considering the term "fever swamp" is pejorative (and even marked as as such), the unjustified assignment of it to one side or the other is POV without citations to explain why it is assigned to one side and not the other. Izuko (talk) 16:51, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
- The definition is describing the way the word is used, not making any value judgements. Typically, there are different words used for left-wing extremist views. Kiwima (talk) 19:05, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
- There are certainly other terms that are used for left-wing views, however I've seen fever swamp used fairly often, as well. The article implies that it's one-sided. Izuko (talk) 21:23, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
- Point me to some citations that show that --- the term was initially coined about right wing extremists, and almost every citation that I have found uses it similarly. Kiwima (talk) 09:07, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Just one off the top of my head, before breakfast - http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454483/democratic-candidates-2020-best-worst-ranked?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=continetti&utm_content=opponents Izuko (talk) 13:02, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Point me to some citations that show that --- the term was initially coined about right wing extremists, and almost every citation that I have found uses it similarly. Kiwima (talk) 09:07, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- There are certainly other terms that are used for left-wing views, however I've seen fever swamp used fairly often, as well. The article implies that it's one-sided. Izuko (talk) 21:23, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
- Do you consider moonbat and SJW (terms specifically for liberals) equally "biased"? We can't define them as "anyone with any politics" because that wouldn't be the true meaning. Equinox ◑ 23:43, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Not sure I've seen "moonbat" used towards conservatives, but I would be open to arguments. "SJW" is exclusive to the left, based on the actual ideology behind the Social Justice theory. A better example would be "moron." Were I the first one to write an entry on morons, and wrote it as applying to liberals, that would be VERY biased and POV, even if true. Izuko (talk) 00:39, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- Do you consider moonbat and SJW (terms specifically for liberals) equally "biased"? We can't define them as "anyone with any politics" because that wouldn't be the true meaning. Equinox ◑ 23:43, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- I would point out that the definition does not say it is used exclusively for right-wing extremists -- just that it is usually used that way. Yes, you can find some examples that are talking about left-wing extremists, such as the one in the National Review about Clinton, but the overwhelming majority refer to right-wing extremism, and the term carries that connotation. I can also find examples of moonbat that refer to right-wing idealogs, but the overwhelming majority refer to left-wing idealogs. Kiwima (talk) 09:58, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Do you have any citations to show that it's usually used for right-wing extremism? If not, back it goes. Izuko (talk) 00:39, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- I would point out that the definition does not say it is used exclusively for right-wing extremists -- just that it is usually used that way. Yes, you can find some examples that are talking about left-wing extremists, such as the one in the National Review about Clinton, but the overwhelming majority refer to right-wing extremism, and the term carries that connotation. I can also find examples of moonbat that refer to right-wing idealogs, but the overwhelming majority refer to left-wing idealogs. Kiwima (talk) 09:58, 11 December 2017 (UTC)