Talk:faraja

Which Arabic?

@Metaknowledge: I have no idea what happened here. Compare also fariji. I had looked at it some months ago already and did not get any better idea. The meaning of فرح about meaning pleased is not too far and I have rather chosen by two consonants + meaning, for lack of alternatives. Maybe @Emascandam has an idea about a dialectal feature or vocabulary that explains the Swahili. By the way, have you Metaknowledge and @Habst already seen that there is this whole book explaining mainly Arabic loans in Swahili, Google Books preview of which has been promising, however according to a critique also in need of fancy theories:
Krumm, Bernhard (1932): Wörter und Wortformen orientalischen Ursprungs im Suaheli. Hamburg: Friederichsen, De Gruyter & Co.
Krumm, Bernhard (1940): Words of Oriental Origin in Swahili (2^nd edition). London: The Sheldon Press ?
I could get the German original for 17 € in Germany (one offer I see) but I am not the Swahili student and it has no point for me as long as I cannot add all the words or understand basic Swahili, and besides I am already wan from pervading additions to this website. Fay Freak (talk) 19:31, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Isn't it more plausible that the word came from فرج instead? The /ħ/ → /d͡ʒ~ʄ/ is not something I've seen before, I would take it with a grain of salt without a reliable source. --Emascandam (talk) 22:18, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes. Those meanings there are real, though not too frequent. I thought about this word in the sense of “cracking open”; and the word really means “release” so. Fay Freak (talk) 23:16, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Emascandam; that etymon makes sense. @Fay Freak, I've read Krumm and it's a terrible source, filled with bad philology and blatant misunderstandings. I was also excited when I first saw it, so it was a major disappointment to me. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 18:42, 27 September 2019 (UTC)