Talk:fò
Proposed deletion
[edit]Could someone please delete this page? The form fò with grave accent is wrong: see here and here. IvanScroogeNovantotto (parla con me) 14:23, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
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The form fò with grave accent is wrong: see here and here. IvanScroogeNovantotto (parla con me) 17:54, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- But see here where it is used. I think that single-syllable Italian words are often written with a grave accent on the vowel. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:19, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- RFV? Is it obsolete or a variant or just a mistake? I have no idea. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:32, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- @SemperBlotto: actually, it is exactly the opposite of what you said; as a rule, no accent is put on monosyllables unless they need to be distinguished from same-spelled ones with different meaning: e.g. dà "he/she gives" vs da "from, by" (sometimes not even this exception is applied: fa "he/she does" or "F (musical note)"). Moreover, we'd better rely on dictionaries than on automatic conjugators. IvanScroogeNovantotto (parla con me) 19:05, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- Bring to RFV.—msh210℠ (talk) 20:12, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
No consensus to delete; recommended for RfV. bd2412 T 16:30, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
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@IvanScrooge98, SemperBlotto: Per recommendation at RFD, this entry has been brought to RFV with the purpose of finding out not whether it is considered correct, but whether it is in fact used. Any insight? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:37, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Metaknowledge: first of all, that form is currently only used in certain areas of central Italy, otherwise faccio is used: being so rare nowadays, Italians might be uncertain about whether to use the grave or not, so that in those extremely unusual cases in which they have to write it, fò may appear, but in even rarer instances, then I wouldn't define it as in fact used. In older texts, where that form is more common, you'll never find the accent. IvanScroogeNovantotto (parla con me) 13:57, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
- @IvanScrooge98: The way RFV works (as detailed at the top of this page) is that if a word has been used, it gets to stay. In this case, even if you don't like it, if there are at least three times that different people have put fò in a published work, and those works span more than a year, then it gets to stay (and you can label it with
{{lb|it|proscribed}}
or whatever, if there's reason to do so). —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:41, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
- @IvanScrooge98: The way RFV works (as detailed at the top of this page) is that if a word has been used, it gets to stay. In this case, even if you don't like it, if there are at least three times that different people have put fò in a published work, and those works span more than a year, then it gets to stay (and you can label it with
- This is incredibly difficult to search for as Google ignores the grave accent. But Google Ngram viewer shows plenty of hits -but then you can't link from the graph to the citation. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:07, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
- RFV failed. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 11:29, 29 June 2016 (UTC)