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Latest comment: 5 years ago by Kiwima in topic RFV discussion: March–April 2019

RFV discussion: March–April 2019

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Rfv-sense: "A brothel"

I thought the essence of the business model for such agencies or services is that any sexual services are not performed on company premises. DCDuring (talk) 08:50, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

I suppose it is possible the term is used euphemistically, but it may be quite hard to find citations. — SGconlaw (talk) 09:01, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
But just think of the fun to be had in the search. DCDuring (talk) 09:34, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
I believe sense 2 is incorrect. DonnanZ (talk) 09:57, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
And as I said here:
"...definition seven of escort explicitly contains the words ‘who does not operate in a brothel’. So if an escort agency is a brothel, then how can it possibly be an ‘agency’ of ‘escorts’?"
Tharthan (talk) 10:03, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
We are talking about words not concepts, let alone sets of mutually inexclusive, collectively exhaustive ones. Misnomers and inconsistencies are part of what we document. DCDuring (talk) 10:57, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
The noted difference in business model (on-premise versus off-premise services) makes the contested sense, also as a euphemism, unlikely. What is likely is that (especially in places where prostitution is illegal) a prostitution ring may operate under the guise of “escort agency” (see e.g. this news story). But a prostitution ring is not a brothel. Moreover, A commonly being used as a front for B does not make A one of the senses of B.  --Lambiam 12:54, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Lambiam Wait... I don't get it. "in places where prostitution is illegal ... a prostitution ring may operate under the guise of ‘escort agency’".
So... are "escorts" not prostitutes? I understand that sometimes people may pay someone for a time to pretend to be their girlfriend for show or something like that, but aren't "escorts" (or "call girls") essentially just prostitutes that do not work at brothels? Tharthan (talk) 17:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
This is RfV, not RfD or an entry talk page. There is a Tea Room discussion open. DCDuring (talk) 19:16, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
Alright. I just thought that the question was pertinent, since we are talking about whether or not the term escort agency can be legitimately used to mean brothel, whether or not such a usage would be inherently euphemistic, and (more importantly) whether such a usage is well attested enough to warrant inclusion here on Wiktionary.
I'll copy over my question to the Tea Room discussion. Tharthan (talk) 19:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 20:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply