Talk:dieselpunk

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Dieselpunk is a genre of books, games, and art spun off from the cyberpunk movement of the 1980s. Related genres include steampunk, clockpunk, and magipunk. At their worst, these terms are mere catchphrases and empty hype; at their best, all these genres aim to bring a fresh, anarchic, punk rock sensibility to speculative fiction and games.

The term dieselpunk was first coined for the Children of the Sun tabletop role-playing game. In the game, mechanization, firearms, and radios exist in a fantastic world of magic. The most notable dieselpunk books are the works of China Miéville.

Not sure quite how that would fit here. Maybe over at w:dieselpunk, if anon contributor wants to try moving it there. --Connel MacKenzie 03:31, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Different from steam punk.

While I have not yet read the setting where the term "diselpunk" comes from. It seems that it is different from steam punk in the level of technology possessed. More technology from the 1920-1980+ish eras. Less steam engines and more ICEs. Transistor radios, more modern firearms, etc. I'll have a more definite time range when I have read the setting. I saw some other page on diesel punk here that has a very nice definition, when I find it I'm going to link this page to that one. turns out its just Dieselpunk, strange.

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Seems to be a neologism, and is not in common usage. It's also unattested, and was recently removed from Wikipedia for the third time.Wolfkeeper 23:52, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

That decision is being contested. --Ron Ritzman 01:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Ironically, someone is using its presence on Wiktionary to support inclusion on Wikipedia. Let's wait a few days for cites, but I'm not actively looking for them.--Dmol 01:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, not quite. I was using its presence on Wiktionary to support a soft redirect from Wikipedia to Wiktionary.S Marshall 02:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

It's covered on lots of blogs and things, and it's used in about 2 commercial games, but there doesn't seem to be any other major usages of it that I've seen. However, the standards are different here, so it might just be OK I guess.Wolfkeeper 14:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

It is indeed a neologism, but it's one that's already listed in several of Webster's publications from 2008. It's a retronym resulting from steampunk. --EncycloPetey 14:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Nothing to delete at Dieselpunk or dieselpunk. Move to RfV. DCDuring TALK 14:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Be wary of Webster's Facts and Phrases: as I understand it, they are not typical edited books we could cite (like a Webster dictionary) but an agglomeration of clippings from the Internet. They often quote Wikipedia, too, which would make them doubly unusable. Equinox ◑ 20:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Once committed to print, even Wikipedia material is durably archived. Though such a source would be among my least preferred, it might count. BP? DCDuring TALK 11:35, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Why is this here? RFV.​—msh210℠ 18:59, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Cited, IMHO. DCDuring TALK 11:32, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Wrong request. RFV passed. DAVilla 07:22, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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Cited, IMHO. DCDuring TALK 11:30, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Seems dubious to quote USENET.Wolfkeeper 22:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

We use Usenet and not other online groups because it is "durably archived" and findable. They are never my favorite source. DCDuring TALK 22:22, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

RFV passed. Thanks for the cites, DCDuring! —Ruakh_TALK 20:46, 31 August 2010 (UTC)