Talk:dies Lunae
Latest comment: 16 years ago by Ivan Štambuk in topic dydd Llun
Confusing: at Monday the Latin translation seems to be dies lunae (lowercase l), but dies lunae redirects to dies Lunae. Assuming that both spellings are correct: what is the most used spelling?
- I believe the capitalized form is mostly an Americanism/Britishism. The Spaniards, French, and other Romance-language-speakers write it all lowercase when using Latin. —Stephen 00:03, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe you're right, Stephen. Strange, the Portuguese Wiktionary mentions solis dies, lunae dies etc., but also dies Solis, dies Lunae etc. Mind the different word order for lowercase and uppercase. See http://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Apêndice:Dias_da_Semana#Latim_cl.C3.A1ssico where you can find the days of the week in a very large number of languages.
Also notice that dies Solis, dies Lunae etc. correspond to Welsh dydd Sul, dydd Llun etc. (the Welsh dydd should be lowercase, unlike English Wiktionary!). - Jan from Belgium
- Maybe you're right, Stephen. Strange, the Portuguese Wiktionary mentions solis dies, lunae dies etc., but also dies Solis, dies Lunae etc. Mind the different word order for lowercase and uppercase. See http://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Apêndice:Dias_da_Semana#Latim_cl.C3.A1ssico where you can find the days of the week in a very large number of languages.
(deprecated template usage) luna part is definitely from Latin, but Welsh (deprecated template usage) dydd is of Common Celtic origin [1], from the same PIE root that gave Latin diēs, so it's definitely not a borrowing, but some calquish translation. --Ivan Štambuk 14:18, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- And note: calques and similar "semantic borrowings" are not treated in Wiktionary etymologies as proper language sources; i.e. they shouldn't categorise into "xx:Language derivations" category. Similarly for ====Descendents==== sections of originating terms. --Ivan Štambuk 14:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)