Talk:continental Europe

RFD discussion: November 2019–March 2020

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continental Europe

SOP. Canonicalization (talk) 16:28, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

• There are at least two large islands in Europe which aren't continental, namely Britain and Ireland, although we have Brexiteers who seemingly want to deny all knowledge of continental Europe. Keep. DonnanZ (talk) 13:34, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Please explain how what you've just written is a reason for keeping, or indeed has anything to do with the issue at hand. Canonicalization (talk) 13:42, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

You shouldn't need to ask. It has a different meaning to plain old Europe, Central Europe, Eastern Europe, Northern Europe, Southern Europe and Western Europe. DonnanZ (talk) 15:56, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Delete per Donnanz. I think his justification illustrates that this is simply SOP. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 18:32, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Um, I said keep. DonnanZ (talk) 20:03, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Maybe "per" was the wrong word. But I meant that your comment convinced me that it was SOP. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 23:03, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

I'd be inclined to keep this. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Looks SOP to me. As to the one quote on the 2nd definition, I don't know how anyone can really assume it means something more than what is in the first definition. -Mike (talk) 17:10, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

So you think that the author of the quotation at sense 2 meant to exclude the leaders of Cyprus, Malta and the Republic of Ireland from the leaders of Europe who concur with Juncker.  --Lambiam 09:15, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

This is sloppy language, but do we really need to record that? Canonicalization (talk) 09:38, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not even sure about that. Maybe he didn't mean to exclude those countries; he simply didn't pay them any mind. Canonicalization (talk) 09:42, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Besides Ireland, Malta and Cyprus being islands and therefore not continental, it can be argued that Cyprus is not actually in Europe. DonnanZ (talk) 12:12, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

What I think is there is a possibility that loosely it could be defined as political Europe led by the larger continental countries as distinct from Great Britain, and maybe others, but it isn't really obvious by that quotation, especially since it then mentions Angela Merkel. I think there would need to be more citations to prove it isn't just a single writer's lone instance of usage. -Mike (talk) 17:03, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

I am inclined to keep this, at least for the sense used in the UK, provided we can agree exactly what that sense is. At the moment the definition reads "The European countries excepting Great Britain", but is Ireland really considered part of "continental Europe"? My feeling is that it means Europe excepting the British Isles, and whether it strictly includes other European islands is unknown/undefined/unimportant. Also, "Great Britain" is not a country anyway. Mihia (talk) 15:18, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

• RFD kept: no consensus for deletion. Over 3 months have elapsed. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:38, 6 March 2020 (UTC)