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Latest comment: 15 years ago by Msh210 in topic RFV discussion

Likely from Latin, something like con (with) + dolor (pain).

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Rfv-sense: Interjection Expressing disappointment or bad news. Is this a usage, a wording problem, an unnecessary PoS (mere pragmatics)? DCDuring TALK 06:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but it's a real usage — some of the first few hits at google:"oh, condolences" are in this use — but it doesn't seem to be as common as (deprecated template usage) my condolences. As for whether "interjection" is the right POS: I have no idea. But I do think we want some sort of {{non-gloss definition|used to express condolence}}. —RuakhTALK 19:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
I think it's just a plural noun, and the fact that it's used to express sorrow belongs in a usage note.—msh210 08:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
(deprecated template usage) thanks may merit comparison. Equinox 23:07, 13 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
The key difference is that "thanks" as an interjection has widespread use and would be laughed out of RfV. I'm not so sure that you can get away with just saying "Condolences." and therefore I don't think it is actually used as an interjection. Hence the RfV. If there is widespread use, I'd be surprised. It is a bit of a pain to cite. DCDuring TALK 00:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
I've added a modified sense which I've gotten 2 cites for through the miracle of COCA. Couldn't have done in Google. As to the original RfV: Clocked out. DCDuring TALK 01:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
And gone. Striking.​—msh210 16:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)Reply