Talk:concert T-shirt

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concert T-shirt

Is this really all that idiomatic? Atelaes 07:13, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

And is it even a "concert T-shirt", or just T-shirt sales at a concert? Junk. DAVilla 15:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Weak keep, as a particular thing that can convey quite a bit about a character, not exactly sum-of-parts (or is it, really?) --Connel MacKenzie 00:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC) Sorry, but I'm completely undecided on this one. --Connel MacKenzie 04:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Definitely "sum of parts" but maybe idiomatic nonetheless. Is it for wearing at the concert? Does it advertise the concert? Change to weak keep. DAVilla 23:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Keep, because have you ever seen a concert T-shirt at the Met? bd2412 T 01:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Have you ever seen a high-end computer at a flea market? DAVilla 23:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

It's idiomatic in the sense that there might be some cultural background, yes. But, as I've said before, we simply cannot explain every cultural background which might be present in a combination of words. Keeping phrases like this will lead to something completely unsustainable. However, it appears I'm in the minority on that. Atelaes 05:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not just about culture, it's about physical substance. Say I go to twenty different rock concerts, and to each one I wear exactly the same blank lime green T-shirt. At the end of the concert season, I hang that blank shirt on the wall next to a shirt which happens to feature a band logo and a list of dates and locations from one of their tours. Which one meets the definition of "concert T-shirt"? bd2412 T 18:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Delete. Widsith 11:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm ambivalent Delete if currency cannot be demonstrated. You can buy lots of things at concerts (concert program(me)s, concert souvenirs), and that there are lots of types of T-shirt (Rolling Stones T-shirt, XL T-shirt, baby's T-shirt). This looks like just an example of an attributive use of "concert".

However, if this is the name specifically used for one of those T-shirts you often see that has a band's name and tour dates on it, then keep. — Paul G 18:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

My point above is that "concert t-shirt" invokes a particular type of concert, specifically a rock concert. You don't wear a concert t-shirt to hear an orchestra play Vivaldi, although if you said you were going to a concert (as opposed to specifying a "rock concert" people would likely presume that you meant a performance of classical music. Also, if Mick Jagger wears a t-shirt while performing in a concert, that would not automatically be considered a concert t-shirt; what distinguished the concert t-shirt is 1) the association with a rock concert (or some other equally modern and informal genre), and 2) information on the shirt itself identifying the band, tour, tour dates, etc. bd2412 T 20:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Citations:

1. Anthony Swofford, Exit A: A Novel (2007) Page 13:
   • She chose black knee-highs, a Catholic-schoolgirl skirt, and a black concert T-shirt.
2. Tina Basich, Kathleen Gasperini, Pretty Good for a Girl: The Autobiography of a Snowboarding Pioneer (2003) Page 9:
   • I bought a Go-Go's concert T-shirt and wore it to school the next day and thought I was so cool.
3. Sujata Massey, The Floating Girl (2001) Page 215:
   • "While you were on the train, did you see a young foreign man wearing a Porno for Pyros T-shirt anywhere?" I remembered Alec and the concert T-shirt he had worn to the Gaijin Times meeting that morning.
4. Robert S. Chang, Disoriented: Asian Americans, Law, and the Nation-State (1999) Page 114:
   • He was right, but I wondered what tipped him off—my Asian features, or my black concert T-shirt from Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA tour.
5. Mel Odom, Sabrina Goes to Rome (1998) Page 38:
   • Owen's outfit remained basic black, but the concert T-shirt was new and bore the name of a band Sabrina had never heard of before, Great Big Sea.
6. Debra Mostow Zakarin, Too Cool for School (1997) Page 133:
   • She put her bag on the table and pulled out this amazingly cool black Band X concert T-shirt.
7. Matthew Rettenmund, Boy Culture (1996):
   • And yet here was a brilliant kid at a first-rate school somewhere in the Midwest wearing a Blondie concert T-shirt.
8. Lisa D. Campbell, Michael Jackson: The king of pop (1993) Page 224:
   • The other houses a poster of Michael in a white shirt and yellow vest and a concert T-shirt from the Bad tour.
9. Joe Gores, Wolf Time (1990) Page 205:
   • He wore his hair in a single ponytail down his back, with a U-2 concert T-shirt under a trendy Italian linen jacket with the sleeves folded back the obligatory single turn.

Notice how many of these describe a concert T-shirt as being from a particular band or even a particular tour? bd2412 T 04:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with Ateglen's "thin-edge-of-the-wedge" assertion. You can't (reasonably) call it a "rock concert t-shirt" without evoking laughter. The component word "concert" is an idiom for "rock concert." Since you can't separate "concert" from "t-shirt" and still convey that idiomatic sense, I once again vote "weak keep." --Connel MacKenzie 19:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)