Talk:cisnormativity

Is this word really uncountable?

Is this word really uncountable? I think it isn'f. 92.40.249.52 19:39, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't know why one would ever use the plural. Google turned up a usage of "hetero and cisnormativities", but that's really a plural of normativity. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 10:19, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hi there, text in this listing reads "that a normal person's gender identity", this should definitely read "that a person's gender identity". The word 'normal' is subjective - what is a 'normal' person?

It's talking about what is assumed, not what is objectively real. "Normal" is part of the assumption that is made by a person. It's okay in the definition: we are not saying what is normal and what isn't. Equinox ◑ 00:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

You're right, but the anon has hit on something. If we say cisnormativity means someone is assuming "a normal person" is X, that implies that the person acknowledges that some people ("non-normal" people) are not X. In fact, I think it'd be clearer to borrow wording from heteronormativity: it's more like completely ignoring and/or presuming the non-existence of non-cisgender people — assuming that everyone is cisgender. (Heteronormativity’s three senses need to be combined into one, which I will do now, but the wording is elucidating.) - -sche (discuss) 01:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

I don't understand why the new definition is better than the previous one: "The assumption that all people are cissexual, i.e. have a gender identity that is the same as their biological sex". I haven't reverted Robin Lionheart's re-defining because I'm not sure whether I really understand the usage. Dbfirs 08:39, 21 September 2015 (UTC)