Talk:catorchites

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@I'm so meta even this acronym: I have found Perseus's cited location for this usage here (ch. xix, §102) and here, which Perseus translates here (paragraph 3). It appears in the Latin that the two other names for sȳcītēs (σῡκῑ́της (sūkī́tēs)) are pharnuprium and trochin, the former of which has been misread palmiprīmus and the latter could conceivably be an adulteration of the Greek κᾰτορχῑ́της. I have yet to find Pliny literally using the word catorchītēs, however. —JohnC5 ^{(Talk | contribs)} 04:13, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

@JohnC5: It appears that Pliny uses the word in the accusative singular, catorchītēn; searching google books:"catorchiten" brings up very many copies of the same passage. I don't know why your sources have trochin instead. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 09:11, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

@I'm so meta even this acronym: So it would seem. Also what of this pharnuprium vs. palmiprīmus business? Both of my sources have the former and all of yours, the latter. Seems that there are two major versions of this passage. Also, sorry for making so many dumb mistakes recently. —JohnC5 ^{(Talk | contribs)} 09:19, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

@JohnC5: It would seem so. I don't know anything about the manuscript tradition of Pliny's Naturalis Historia, so I can't hypothesise any further than to say that there is clearly some variation in it. And what "dumb mistakes"? None come to mind. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 10:09, 5 December 2014 (UTC)