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Latest comment: 6 years ago by Vorziblix in topic Etymology
Etymology
[edit]Here we have the Albanian term supposedly from PIE *bhrā́ter-, Romanian from Turkish bre, Turkish bre itself with no given etymology, and Serbocroatian apparently from Greek μωρέ (the article at bwe, however, claims Turkish instead), all with the same meaning. Rather implausible, to say the least. Anyone want to take a shot at clearing out the nonsense? Vorziblix (talk) 23:13, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- My wrong for bwe - it descends directly from Serbo-Croatian bre. I've corrected it now. Anyway, there's some info on w:More (interjection), maybe sth useful about the Greek origin or stuff. Cheers, --biblbroksдискашн 23:43, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
"Supposedly"... ləl, how shady. Let me help you out: "BRE" is found in ALL Balkan languages. Thus, the "from turkish etymology" is ridiculous. Ottomans were not needed to "teach" Romanians "how to bre".
- As for albanian: "Bre" is used for a male person. Same as "Burrë" = "man" / "Bir" = "son". Same like "more"; only for males.
- While "Bi" is used exactly like "Bre"; but only directed at a female person. Which is also how "daughter" begins in albanian: "Bijë". Same with "moj"; only females. Also: Neither was a greek "μωρέ" needed for the Serbo-Croatian "bre". Since brate, burrë, bir, brother, Bauer etc. etc. etc. clearly emphasize masculinity. Which is the same as PIE *bhrā́ter- and illyrian "bra".
- ■ Attention: Illyrian bra - and not greek. Do I have to mention that ancient hellens called these illyrians "barbarians"? LAGTON (talk) 23:59, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
- ‘Supposedly’, because all the given etymologies contradict each other, so they can’t all be right. Hence why I was asking for someone more knowledgeable than me to fix it. If you have a reliable academic source that discusses the origin of bre from Illyrian bra, by all means post it; I’d love to have a linguistically sound answer. However, if this is just vague speculation, then it probably doesn’t belong here. — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 06:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)