Talk:aphobia
Add topicAlso: Asexuals hating. 84.229.55.80 12:18, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
- Done We have had the asexual-phobia sense for a while, though I don't believe it's attestable by our WT:CFI rules. Equinox ◑ 17:26, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- It is now. WordyAndNerdy (talk) 08:53, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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I cannot find uses of this term to refer to fearlessness; virtually every single use I see is in the asexual/aromantic-hating sense. The only use I've seen that even looks like it could mean this is this, but even of this, I'm not entirely sure. The etymology is sound; it could in theory refer to fearlessness, but I cannot find much evidence to suggest that it ever did in practice (interestingly, I did see one source defining it as a 'fear of nothing', a sense not in the entry). I'm having a hard time finding uses of this term at all pre-21st century; Google Books gives me results that say 'a phobia' (two words, and clearly talking about phobias), and hardly any instances of 'aphobia'. Adam9007 (talk) 06:19, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- The article in your first link can be read in full here. The aphobia there does seem to refer to an absence of fear (extended by the author to mean a lack of conscientiousness; a tendency to abuse recklessly) with regard to surgery. (I've added the quote to the entry.)
- I haven't been able to find any other quotes of aphobia meaning fearlessness (not even in early glossaries), which I honestly didn't expect, as ἀφοβία is rather well attested in Greek sources. 蒼鳥 fawk. tell me if i did anything wrong. 12:05, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- It's occurred to me that the 'fear of nothing' referenced in the second link could have been intended to mean a lack of fear; however, that's just a glossary, so we can't rely on that. I've found a few uses of the term as part of a compound word, but these do not seem to refer to a lack of fear, but quite the opposite: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Adam9007 (talk) 19:14, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- ah, the -a- is just excrescent in those (viz. acting as the connective schwa, from -o-, originally in Greco-Latinate compounds). No relation to a- (“without”). 蒼鳥 fawk. tell me if i did anything wrong. 21:09, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- It's occurred to me that the 'fear of nothing' referenced in the second link could have been intended to mean a lack of fear; however, that's just a glossary, so we can't rely on that. I've found a few uses of the term as part of a compound word, but these do not seem to refer to a lack of fear, but quite the opposite: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Adam9007 (talk) 19:14, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- I can find a few cites where this is mentioned as the Greek word for a battle trance of fearlessness, but it's italicized or introduced as "known as..." and then later explicitly "translated". Compare cisphobia (where only the gender-related sense but not the chemistry sense is attested) to transphobia (where the chemistry sense is attested) for another case where an expected sense is surprisingly not attested. - -sche (discuss) 19:19, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- Failed, has only one clear use, one cite borderline between use and mention, and one italicized mention of the Greek term. - -sche (discuss) 19:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)