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Latest comment: 4 years ago by Backinstadiums in topic adjective

RFV discussion: August–December 2016

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The first example in the first meaning is not an adverb, but a preposition used in an ellipsis clause. The second example is also questionable, might be the same. I doubt against is an adverb. 24.5.143.190 04:44, 19 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

The usage is certainly derived from the preposition's elliptical use.
So, what would be required to show that a given use without a prepositional object was adverbial? DCDuring TALK 12:56, 19 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
Not listed as an adverb in Oxford [1], a preposition only. DonnanZ (talk) 21:11, 8 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
Comment and example sentence: "I am against deleting this entry." How is this not an adverb if it is a modifier of a verb again? "against deleting" means that the term against modifies the word deleting, which is a verb form? Also, this can be used comparatively, for instance "I am more against deleting this entry than CodeCat is." (not saying CodeCat is against it at all, just using it as an example sentence) Although, I'm not sure how nonstandard this is. However, the definitions used in the current adverb section are things I've never seen before. PseudoSkull (talk) 21:27, 8 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
If I'm not mistaken, in the sentence "I am against deleting this entry", "deleting" is a gerund and "deleting this entry" is a noun phrase selected by "against" (which is being used as a preposition, not an adverb). —Mr. Granger (talkcontribs) 00:04, 9 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
Oh, good point. I haven't thought of that. I digress my former statement. PseudoSkull (talk) 00:20, 9 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
A helpful hint: if you can replace something with it, it's grammatically equivalent to a noun. Instead of "I am against deleting this entry", you can say "I am against it". Another variation is to ask a question: if someone didn't quite hear you, they might ask "what are you against?". Chuck Entz (talk) 02:28, 9 September 2016 (UTC)Reply


Use in computing

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e.g. "multiple instances running against a single database", or "we shouldn't be testing against the live server". It feels a bit like the "in physical contact with" sense, but of course it might not be (e.g. wireless network). Equinox 12:19, 25 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

again'

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again' is a variant --Backinstadiums (talk) 23:22, 13 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

adjective

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As in dead against? --Backinstadiums (talk) 18:52, 23 September 2020 (UTC)Reply