Talk:Supreme Leader
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Since we have Taoiseach here, then Supreme Leader merits inclusion, too.--Make a Contribution2 11:31, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
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--Connel MacKenzie 19:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- The corresponding Wikipedia article is Supreme Leader of Iran. The term "Supreme Leader" in itself shouldn't warrant an entry unless examples of it being applied stand-alone can be dug up. __meco 09:21, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- The very article you named, w:Supreme Leader of Iran, uses Supreme Leader by itself eleven times. —Stephen 14:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- If I encountered this term out of the blue, I'd have no idea it refered to the leader of Iran. (Supreme Leader of what? If used stand-alone — as opposed to 'he is the supreme leader of Iran' (NB the minuscule letters) — there is no way to guess.) However, is this a dispute over whether it does indeed exist as a term used in reference to the leader of Iran, or a debate on the term's idiomaticity? -- Beobach972 20:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- 2004: Angel M. Rabasa, The Muslim World After 9/11,
- Despite the vociferous protests from more liberal elements, the clerics endowed the office of Supreme Leader with unprecedented political and religious authority.
- If I encountered this term out of the blue, I'd have no idea it refered to the leader of Iran. (Supreme Leader of what? If used stand-alone — as opposed to 'he is the supreme leader of Iran' (NB the minuscule letters) — there is no way to guess.) However, is this a dispute over whether it does indeed exist as a term used in reference to the leader of Iran, or a debate on the term's idiomaticity? -- Beobach972 20:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- It’s just like President of the United States, which is an official title, but 99% of the time, one writes only President. Both terms are valid and useful. —Stephen 17:13, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
- In the English language, one can presume some knowledge of American politics; to play on the stereotype, one can assume that an American like me has no idea whatsoever what the term might refer to in the narrow context of the politics of a small far-away country. I guess my question is, is this something we can confidently say has entered the English language, proper? Offhand, I'd say no. --Connel MacKenzie 22:39, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
RFV passed. (It's not clear to me whether the uppercase or the lowercase is the main form of the word, but both meet CFI.) —RuakhTALK 18:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)