Talk:Satanism

RFV discussion: April–June 2014

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Satanism

"Any religion seen as non-Abrahamic." Equinox ◑ 07:47, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

• This seems counterintuitive. Since "Satan" is a character appearing only in Abrahamic works in the first place, Satanism is an Abrahamic religion. bd2412 T 13:20, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

  I don't know if it's citable as a word, but people who lump all other religions together as Satanism is certainly a thing. LaVey Satanism is about as Abrahamic as Scientology or Wicca; while they may have been born in an Abrahamic environment or as a response to Abrahamic religions, they don't share the family similarity that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam do.--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:19, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

This is a good illustration of the distortions in Pass a Method's way of looking at things: it's true that religious bigots tend to attribute other religions to the influence of Satan- but that's not the same as using the term "Satanism" to refer to those religions. PAM also tries to mechanically substitute Abrahamic for traditional terms such as Christian, without really paying attention to the semantic characteristics of the term being replaced. In this case, it's not whether it's Abrahamic, but whether it's different: there are plenty of Christian bigots that consider Islam, Judaism and even different Christian denominations to be "of the Devil". This is one of the worst of a long line of really bad misinterpretations by this contributor. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, we get it. For what it may be worth, PaM only changed that definition from "Any religion seen as either non-Christian or anti-Christian", and previously it had "and" inside. Can we get that cited at least? — Keφr 14:13, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

• RFV failed. "Any religion seen as non-Abrahamic" has no quotations provided. "Any religion seen as either non-Christian or anti-Christian" has no quotations provided. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:00, 20 June 2014 (UTC)