Talk:Qomolangma Feng

Delete it

Map including Kizilsu He (a river name near 15⁰ on the map) (DMA, 1989)

Note on my talk page:

It may be a monstrosity, but it has enough usage in Google Books to meet CFI. It seems to be mostly used in the Chinese government's English-language publications, and by scientists (Anyone who does research in the area is going to be careful about their wording- Chinese bureaucrats are very touchy about anything to do with Tibet). Chuck Entz (talk) 03:23, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

My apologies if it's not so bad that it deserves automatic speedy deletion. It's still Chinglish: the English name of the thing is "Mount Qomolangma", not "Qomolangma Feng", which is just atonal pinyin. We're not including that for every place in the world with a Chinese name, are we? — LlywelynII 06:51, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

<nitpicking>"Qomolangma" is not Pinyin.</nitpicking> Even if it's "Chinglish" (calling it that seems like a bit of a stretch to me), if people use it, it's included here, no matter how bizarre it is —suzukaze (t・c) 06:55, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

• @Suzukaze-c Would this term be considered a calque? I thought calques are mostly meaning-based (not sound-based) translations? ---> Tooironic (talk) 01:53, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

cf. Nei Mongol - should handled similarly? --Geographyinitiative (talk) 01:58, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

I would not cald this a calque. @MSG17 —Suzukaze-c (talk) 03:19, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Is it not? It looks like another user has changed it to "partial calque", which seems much more adept. I would guess we will run into this issue in other proper nouns for places in China constructed like this. MSG17 (talk) 13:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

My interpretation is that, in general, Chinese character words that are transliterated from another language into Chinese characters are then transliterated into English using the original source language. But a problem arises when a Chinese character word is partially based on transliteration from a local language and partially based on Chinese characters using the meaning of those characters. The forms like Nei Mongol, Qomolangma Feng are produced- the Chinese characters transliterated from another language into Chinese characters are given in English as a transliteration of the source language, while the Chinese characters that carry Chinese character meanings are transliterated using Hanyu Pinyin. The words thus formed look disastrous to my eye and they don't get a lot of usage (as far as I know) but there are some of them that do have three cites for sure, like Nei Mongol and Qomolangma Feng. Here's another example on this map- 'Kizilsu He'. Here's another one: Dahingganling. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:27, 26 May 2021 (UTC) (clarified)