Talk:Parliament
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There is an almost unlimited number of parliaments around the world, both at federal and state levels. Why should we spell them all out - isn't that for an encyclopedia is for? ---> Tooironic 00:46, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- If it is actually used as such (i. e. capitalized) I don't see why not. But that is more a question for RfV. -- Prince Kassad 01:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see that we could possibly delete the entry. I think we can only delete an individual sense if it is not attestable under our current rules. I think this problem arise from treating such proper nouns as if they merited encyclopedic senses. IMO, a wiser approach would be to treat such an entry the same way that we treat given names and surnames. DCDuring TALK 01:53, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- See World Cup, I'd take that approach. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- But the World Cup entry seems wrong. "World Cup" is an unofficial proper name. It is not a common noun any more than any of the uses of "Springfield". DCDuring TALK 12:03, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Obviously WP covers the various entities with the name or nickname "Parliament" much better than we do. Their list of entities at w:Parliament (disambiguation) and of individual parliaments at w:Parliament#List of parliaments, thought not complete, seems adequate. DCDuring TALK 12:19, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- See World Cup, I'd take that approach. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see that we could possibly delete the entry. I think we can only delete an individual sense if it is not attestable under our current rules. I think this problem arise from treating such proper nouns as if they merited encyclopedic senses. IMO, a wiser approach would be to treat such an entry the same way that we treat given names and surnames. DCDuring TALK 01:53, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- delete. But not because it would be encyclopedic. The word is capitalized to mean the parliament of the State. Isn't this rule a general rule for the use of capitals, applicable to all words, when meaningful (e.g. in the Capital)? Capitals have several meanings, several standard uses (e.g. beginning of a sentence, newpapers titles, taxa, etc.), this is one of them (but the State page is justified by a different meaning). Lmaltier 21:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Are you saying that nicknames of entities are sometimes not themselves proper names? Or that only official names are true proper nouns? DCDuring TALK 00:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- No, not at all. Parliament is not a nickname. The reason is that parliament is a normal noun, and that nouns may be capitalized in some standard cases, which does not make them different nouns, just for the same reason we don't create You as a page: this is a standard use of capitals. Lmaltier 06:42, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Are you saying that nicknames of entities are sometimes not themselves proper names? Or that only official names are true proper nouns? DCDuring TALK 00:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Merge senses and modify the definition to be more general. --Yair rand (talk) 07:20, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
rewritten, I hope it is OK like this. -- Liliana • 14:18, 18 October 2011 (UTC)