Talk:Myvyrian

@-sche Are you sure about the pronunciations here? The labels refer to Welsh phonology and I would not expect the normal English language pronunciation to contain non-English vowels in it. Benwing2 (talk) 22:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for finding this. (From 2012, wow.) I suspect I intended the labels to refer to English as spoken in those geographic areas (and fell victim to the fact that those prosaic strings also refer to Welsh dialects; a common problem with simple descriptors alas, cf. the polysemy of Midland(s)...), but I can unfortunately no longer recall or relocate what sources I was using when I created this entry (and I recall they were hard to find), so I will just remove the labels/pronunciations — the Welsh English pronunciation can be re-added by someone else if they, unlike me, have time to find sources, heh. As for the vowels, /ɨ/ is not (intended to be) a non-English vowel here, it is/was rather one of a number of (now dispreferred?) representations used in various dictionaries (including Random House at the time I created this, I think, though I don't recall what I was looking at when I created this entry specifically — I just recall this or an equivalent symbol being used by them for this vowel in other words around that era), along with ᵻ (the symbol the OED has now started using, although I don't recall them using it back then; they seem to have made a conscious choice to start using it), which therefore also saw some use on Wiktionary at that time, although there has subsequently been a tendency to require the vowel to be notated as /ɪ/, /ə/ or /i/ instead (and I have seen old instances getting changed to those notations), which is probably reasonable. In particular I have in the years since 2012 come to see that we normally notate /iɹ/ as /ɪɹ/, so I'll just (remove the labels and) fold the pronunciations together into what I think our usual notation is. If you think any other changes are need, please make them! :) - -sche (discuss) 23:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC)