Talk:Millard Fillmore

Why?

I'm not certain I understand why we have an entry for this individual, or why the "Translations" section says "One of the least known US presidents." 71.66.97.228 19:38, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I imagine, looking at the quotations, it has become metaphorical for someone easily forgotten. Though I agree it's slightly clutching at straws. —Jakeybean^TALK 19:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I see; that makes sense. It's a noun, not a proper noun. Let's look for references at Google books. 71.66.97.228 19:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Wait a minute; this entry says it's a proper noun. Wouldn't it not be a proper noun if used in a metaphorical fashion? 71.66.97.228 19:52, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

We have strange requirements to make a proper noun appropriate for entry. DCDuring TALK 20:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Change

This change would not be correct if the term is used metaphorically. It would not mean, that in the quotes given, that some current politician *actually is* Millard Fillmore, a dead former president. 71.66.97.228 20:07, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

When Miller Beer says that its principal product is "the Champagne of bottled beers", what are they saying? Does that mean that "Champagne" is not a place or not a brand name or a beverage? DCDuring TALK 20:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

That's a very good point. Perhaps the full implication of the catchphrase "the Champagne of bottled beers" is that Miller is *the closest thing to Champagne* among bottled beers? Because it's clear that beer is no kind of Champagne (a grape wine produced in one region of France). 71.66.97.228 00:38, 5 January 2011 (UTC)