Talk:Korean
Add topicLatest comment: 10 months ago by Mlgc1998 in topic English
I'm using 2000 SK Romanization to transliterate Korean words in wiktionary. Should it be SAMPA?
And I'm using simple [ to denote the etymology of Korean words, especially for the sino-korean words.
Example:
Korean: 엉망 (eongmang), 혼돈 [混頓] (hondon)
--Xaos
The numbers of the nouns have been changed round. The translations have not been. Therefore the translations are all suspect !! 10:36, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
English
[edit]@Mlgc1998 Tagalog Korean? Why Ysrael214 (talk) 12:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214 i know it's sort of funny finding this at this point, but I made that before cuz I found it recorded in diksiyonaryo.ph before, and then later, I wasn't too sure if should stay or not. Mlgc1998 (talk) 12:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mlgc1998 Now maybe we should remove this. The site is filled with English words such as https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/magnetic%20induction. Koreano would fit the Tagalog for Korean better. Ysrael214 (talk) 12:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214 btw, may check these as well Category:Tagalog unadapted borrowings from Japanese if some of those are actually tagalog despite being in diksiyonaryo.ph. Mlgc1998 (talk) 16:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mlgc1998 These ones are yes can be considered Tagalog (as loanwords) still despite unadapted spellings since these are food and no other word can refer to it. susyi looks funny though. Maybe in time that people forget it's Japanese, that it gets to be spelled that way.
- The line is somewhat vague. It's like, maybe, if you can't say that "sushi" is an English word, then it can be Tagalog. For Korean, as a proper noun, well we can still tell it's English, and Koreano is more used as "Tagalog". Someone can say "Ang Korean, sa Tagalog "Koreano"" not "Ang Korean, sa Tagalog, Korean din". That's how I think it is. Ysrael214 (talk) 16:44, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214 the others there feel like they're Tagalog because there seems to be conjugations or affixed forms of them or tagalized spellings or additional meanings specific to ph for them, but the iffy ones are sushi, sashimi, and maybe shabu-shabu, which the restaurant definition might just be Philippine English. The sushi and sashimi one, diksiyonaryo.ph wrote the same format in their entry with the syllabified filipinized pronunciation spelling inside parenthesis on the right, which usually means it's a foreign word that maybe diksiyonaryo.ph included there to supposedly add to the "Filipino" concept they have of all the other languages combined to Tagalog, but then again, shabu and Nihongo are also recorded that way. And then, there's takoyaki and the other popular Japanese food as well. Mlgc1998 (talk) 16:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mlgc1998 Also, sushi, sashimi, shabu-shabu abide to a Japanese romanization which isn't necessarily attributed to one language. The romanization can't be said as an "English" romanization (even if based on the English orthography). And besides, the spelling is also favored by the Japanese government so it can be said as a Japanese romanization still or even as an international one. So that's why I think the spelling is valid even in Tagalog. Ysrael214 (talk) 18:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214 hmmmmm okashiii okashi naaa, perhaps I can now add hentai hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Mlgc1998 (talk) 18:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mlgc1998 Could be but you don't see hentai in around daily life or in malls unlike sushi ramen and the like. So it fails attestation maybe. Ysrael214 (talk) 18:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214 hahahaha of course, u dont see it in daily life. it's meant to be not common in daily life ahahahahaha Mlgc1998 (talk) 19:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mlgc1998 Thus, it remains foreign for Tagalog. But really the rules are a blur, a pixelated blur, and of course could still be standing for debate. Ysrael214 (talk) 19:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214 I peered into na the "mga "hentai"" in Google Books hehehe. so maaaaany "hentai" within Tagalog sentences ahahahaha I wonder about the "mga "anime"" naman ehehehe Mlgc1998 (talk) 20:29, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mlgc1998 Thus, it remains foreign for Tagalog. But really the rules are a blur, a pixelated blur, and of course could still be standing for debate. Ysrael214 (talk) 19:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214 hahahaha of course, u dont see it in daily life. it's meant to be not common in daily life ahahahahaha Mlgc1998 (talk) 19:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mlgc1998 Could be but you don't see hentai in around daily life or in malls unlike sushi ramen and the like. So it fails attestation maybe. Ysrael214 (talk) 18:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214 hmmmmm okashiii okashi naaa, perhaps I can now add hentai hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Mlgc1998 (talk) 18:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mlgc1998 Also, sushi, sashimi, shabu-shabu abide to a Japanese romanization which isn't necessarily attributed to one language. The romanization can't be said as an "English" romanization (even if based on the English orthography). And besides, the spelling is also favored by the Japanese government so it can be said as a Japanese romanization still or even as an international one. So that's why I think the spelling is valid even in Tagalog. Ysrael214 (talk) 18:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214 the others there feel like they're Tagalog because there seems to be conjugations or affixed forms of them or tagalized spellings or additional meanings specific to ph for them, but the iffy ones are sushi, sashimi, and maybe shabu-shabu, which the restaurant definition might just be Philippine English. The sushi and sashimi one, diksiyonaryo.ph wrote the same format in their entry with the syllabified filipinized pronunciation spelling inside parenthesis on the right, which usually means it's a foreign word that maybe diksiyonaryo.ph included there to supposedly add to the "Filipino" concept they have of all the other languages combined to Tagalog, but then again, shabu and Nihongo are also recorded that way. And then, there's takoyaki and the other popular Japanese food as well. Mlgc1998 (talk) 16:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214 btw, may check these as well Category:Tagalog unadapted borrowings from Japanese if some of those are actually tagalog despite being in diksiyonaryo.ph. Mlgc1998 (talk) 16:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mlgc1998 Now maybe we should remove this. The site is filled with English words such as https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/magnetic%20induction. Koreano would fit the Tagalog for Korean better. Ysrael214 (talk) 12:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)