Talk:Jay

RFV discussion: June–July 2019

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Jay

Rfv-sense: A female given name. Julia ☺ ☆ 01:52, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Anecdotal, but I've seen it used a couple times for a (young) woman but very rare and was short/nickname for something like Jocelyn.--Sigehelmus (talk) 17:35, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

There's the actress Jaye Griffiths (different spelling though). Equinox ◑ 19:11, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

One trick I use for checking to see if a name is used by a particular gender is to search things like "Aunt Jay" and "Grandma Jay", in this case I didn't find anything that was clearly a first name, rather than a bird or what could be either a first or a last name. - TheDaveRoss 19:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Good plan. I see that "daughter Jay" finds some stuff. (Why do male names always end up becoming female ones in the US? There's even a female Michael in that new Star Trek, admittedly fictional.) Equinox ◑ 20:00, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

There is definitely general truth to what you are saying about male names becoming female (and, in many instances, I see no problem with that), but I would assume that if there is a character in a new Star Trek film who is female that is named "Michael", that there are fair odds that there is a misguided social message that is trying to be pushed that the giving of that character that name is only one part of (alternatively, it could be the only instance of such agenda-pushing in the whole film, but I would suspect that if they are going to go so far as to call a female character "Michael", that they would probably not be shy in their insertion of social political agenda in their films). Of course, it's also possible that there are legitimate (or at least partially legitimate) character-specific reasons for them being named that (perhaps "Michael" was the name of a beloved ancestor of theirs, or perhaps they were some particularly un-Earthish extraterrestrial being [wouldn't surprise me, since it's Star Trek] who never knew their own parents, and as such was dubbed "Michael" by someone else for whatever reason), but given the social climate today, my first assumption would sadly have to be the former.

As for "Jay", I think that it sounds quite cool as a female name. It makes me think of an aloof tomboy who walks to the beat of her own drum. Tharthan (talk) 23:42, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

One of my best friends is a woman named Jay Swan. Both her first name and her last name are birds! Khemehekis (talk) 01:45, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Added 3 book citations. Equinox ◑ 13:23, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 22:07, 3 July 2019 (UTC)