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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Binarystep in topic RFD discussion: December 2021–March 2023

RFD discussion: March 2019–March 2020

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Er, sum of parts really isn't it? Equinox 07:14, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Delete. @PseudoSkullΜετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
Delete. ChignonПучок 13:35, 22 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
Delete. Sum of parts. Not lexical. Not dictionary material. ---> Tooironic (talk) 23:07, 24 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
Delete - TheDaveRoss 02:50, 29 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
What does it mean? The definition suggests it is a negation of can't wait, in the sense of "I am eagerly looking forward to". Does it mean "Unlike you, I am not eagerly looking forward to and would be happy to skip (the event, etc.)"? If that's what it means, I would not know you can use the phrase like this. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:43, 13 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
A: "I can't wait for the film to come out!" B (who dislikes these films): "I can wait." B is in no hurry to see the film and has no interest in it. Equinox 18:45, 13 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. In Czech, character A would say "Nemůžu se dočkat až ten film poběží v kinech" or the like. Character B would not be able to say "Já se můžu dočkat". From my standpoint, the entry is worth keeping. --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:10, 13 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
More in the way of argument: the usual phrase is the negative one, can't wait. The use of the positive I can wait is at least somewhat surprising, I would argue, which lends the phrase its sarcastic tone. I can wait is labeled informal, while can't wait not so. Therefore, I can wait is peculiar at least a little. --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:24, 13 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Keep.-Sonofcawdrey (talk) 08:43, 28 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

  • Comment: I would think that the literal meaning would be useful as a translation hub, but there are no translations in the entry. bd2412 T 21:09, 10 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
    I don't know how to translate this to Czech: when one person says nemůžu se dočkat, it is not idiomatic Czech to reply *já se můžu dočkat and mean by it "I could not care less". That reinforces my impression that this is a worthwhile entry to keep. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:56, 31 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Failed, though if there are idiomatic translations perhaps it could be restored as a translation hub at some point. - TheDaveRoss 15:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)Reply


RFD discussion: December 2021–March 2023

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Undeletion of I can wait as can wait

See Talk:I can wait. I wasn't around for that RFD discussion. I think this should be kept because the SOP argument doesn't hold up (despite the last consensus). Example sentence:

Person A: "I can't wait for this movie to come out." Person B: "I can wait."

"I can wait" in this sentence does not simply mean "I am able to wait". It has a deeper meaning, more like "I am not particularly eager to do something like you are." PseudoSkull (talk) 21:45, 27 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Addendum: I changed the vote to put the lemma at can wait, since, though much rarer, I'm sure it's possible to say "John can certainly wait." or something similar. PseudoSkull (talk) 21:51, 27 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
There is also, “What’s the hurry? It can wait.” If this be SOP, I’m unclear which sense of wait covers this use.  --Lambiam 12:48, 28 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
"to remain neglected or in readiness" General Vicinity (talk) 13:05, 28 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
I think "John can certainly wait" is unusable unless "I can't wait" or something has been said previously, because the regular sense of "wait" dominates General Vicinity (talk) 13:07, 28 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
There's something to this, but I wonder if it shouldn't just be covered at wait. DAVilla 22:31, 1 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Leaning undelete, with conditions. I think the definition that was there previously is SOP, but I think there was/is a missing gloss of the use of the phrase to mean that stalling will not be an effective tactic, e.g.: Shayla Black, His to Take (2015), p. 29: “You don't want to answer me? All right. I can wait. I've got all afternoon. How about you?” bd2412 T 23:20, 19 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Undelete per nom. - excarnateSojourner (talk | contrib) 00:39, 9 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
The sense suggested for un-deletion doesn't seem to match the discussion here, I do agree that can wait is the best place for the sense discussed here, but perhaps it should just be created from whole cloth. - TheDaveRoss 18:25, 31 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
RFD-undeleted. Binarystep (talk) 00:23, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply