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I don't believe we include such things (my own submission of The was deleted. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:54, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Not analogous. "The" is capitalised according to normal orthographic rules, e.g. start of sentence. But "deistically" may be capitalised at the writer's choice, a bit like "kleenex" - or I presume that's what the creator meant. Equinox ◑ 19:11, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think this seriously opens up a can of worms. Do we also want Theistically, Polydeistically, Pandeistically, Atheistically, etc.? bd2412 T 22:15, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Good question. I'm not sure. We do have Christianly, and although we don't have Godly or Biblically, we do have both Biblical and biblical. - -sche (discuss) 22:26, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Well, do people even capitalise "atheistically" in mid-sentence? I've never seen it done. We already have loads of caps variations, and even an "alternate capitalisation of" template, for them. Equinox ◑ 22:50, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- We have Christianly, but not christianly (and Islamically, but not islamically). I think it's a binary distinction between actual religions and religious philosophies. bd2412 T 02:16, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think this seriously opens up a can of worms. Do we also want Theistically, Polydeistically, Pandeistically, Atheistically, etc.? bd2412 T 22:15, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Delete both, in any case. A Google n-gram shows the uncapped version of "deistic" has generally been more common (it was more frequently capitalized in the 18th-19th centuries, but this never exceeded use of the lowercase version); lowercase "deistically" has a much more pronounced primacy over the capitalized version. Accounting for uses as the first word in the sentence, and in things like chapter titles, I think this makes it a wash for the capitalized versions. bd2412 T 16:10, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- This is being used in the middle of sentence capitalized, even in modern writing. Do we now delete alternative capitalizations because they are relatively rare? "Deistic" even seems relatively common, per (Deistic*4),deistic at the Google Books Ngram Viewer.; the factor 4 cannot be explained by beginning of sentences and presence in titles, I guess. As for the reason why the users might used "Deistic" capitalized relatively often, it may have to do with it being apparently the adjectival form of "God", which is often capitalized. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:17, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- The following searches should be free from beginning-of-sentence confounding: (a Deistic*8),a deistic at the Google Books Ngram Viewer.}, (the Deistic*8),the deistic at the Google Books Ngram Viewer., (his Deistic*4),his deistic at the Google Books Ngram Viewer.. Factor 8 is still pretty favorable, and we would not delete an alternative spelling as a misspelling with such a factor. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:24, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- I note that "a Deistically" and "the Deistically" do not show up at all (although "a deistically" and "the deistically" do show up). Perhaps there is a dichotomy between adjective and adverb usage. However, I searched for "deistically" in Google books, and found five mid-sentence uses of "Deistically" in the first ten pages, so about a 5% usage rate. My sense is that this is style, not spelling, but that's a difficult line to draw. bd2412 T 15:00, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- The following searches should be free from beginning-of-sentence confounding: (a Deistic*8),a deistic at the Google Books Ngram Viewer.}, (the Deistic*8),the deistic at the Google Books Ngram Viewer., (his Deistic*4),his deistic at the Google Books Ngram Viewer.. Factor 8 is still pretty favorable, and we would not delete an alternative spelling as a misspelling with such a factor. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:24, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- Delete. Not really sure what to say, it's just the word 'deistically' with a capital letter for the start of a sentence or for no reason whatsoever (this is pretty common in English). Renard Migrant (talk) 11:12, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- Abstain on Deistically: it is relatively less common, per (Deistically*50),deistically at the Google Books Ngram Viewer.. --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:58, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
As above. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:55, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Delete. Renard Migrant (talk) 11:12, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- Keep "Deistic" as an alternative capitalization. (his Deistic*4),his deistic at the Google Books Ngram Viewer. suggests it is relatively common; "his" is in the search term to prevent hits as the beginning of a sentence. By contrast, compare (his Religious*100),his religious at the Google Books Ngram Viewer.. For other alternative capitalizations that we have, see what-links-here of
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. Compare, for instance, to the relative frequency at (judeophobia*35),Judeophobia at the Google Books Ngram Viewer., where we have judeophobia. --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)- On another note, since "Deistic" means "of or pertaining to Deism", let's check this: Deism,deism at the Google Books Ngram Viewer., which gives very similar frequency to both forms around year 2000. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:06, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Deistically deleted; no consensus to delete Deistic. bd2412 T 19:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)